Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested - Page 66

Bump · 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM

This is some ****ED UP SHIT, they aren't sure if the racist neighborhood watch idiot should be arrested? If anything, local gangs might take notice of this and start shooting up that neighborhood or just random white neighborhoods. I could never live in the south, it's ridiculous. The guy shoots an innocent teen walking to the store to buy skittles. Should be life in prison, that's cold blood man.

http://news.yahoo.com/family-florida...044537742.html

ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

qabbaan · 03-23-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

I just wish he would have shot him in the leg

You think this happens anywhere but in cowboy movies?

And you carry?

Robo-Chachi · 03-23-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

Nope, can you guarantee me the several million ILLEGAL gun owners, Ice pick owners, switch blade owners , car bumper owners will?

You forgot Skittles owners.

Brock · 03-23-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

I don't know this whole story because I am hearing 3 different versions... A racially charged version, a shooters family version and another one that falls somewhere in between...

If the kid initiated the attack and struck the guy and he was scared he was going to be seriously injured or die, he is justified to protect himself....

I just wish he would have shot him in the leg

If the guy with the gun initiated the attack and struck the kid and he was scared he was going to be seriously injured, he is justified to protect himself....

Robo-Chachi · 03-23-2012, 02:36 PM

Apparently only gun owners are allowed to protect themselves.

R8ers · 03-23-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robo-Chachi

So those of us who don't feel the need to carry a gun on our person need to be willfully submissive to those people who do carry guns?

Welcome to the land of the free!!

Nope, because I legally carry my gun and the guy you have to worry about is the felon who has one.

Then since you don't carry one, you will have to rely on the law to help you while I will do my best to defend myself and my family.

R8ers · 03-23-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

If the guy with the gun initiated the attack and struck the kid and he was scared he was going to be seriously injured, he is justified to protect himself....

Yes....................

vailpass · 03-23-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

It's called Neighborhood Watch not Neighborhood Think You're A Cop.

So you are aware that there was a valid reason to keep an eye on treyvon as a stranger in the community?

scott free · 03-23-2012, 02:38 PM

Calling this guy a 'watchman' is a ****ing joke.

A qualified professional doesnt end up in this situation, nor does he use the stupid language he used with the dispatcher, nor does he ignore what he's being told by the dispatcher... & i still havent heard one single word about what crime this kid supposedly committed that 'allowed' Zimmerman to chase him down.

R8ers · 03-23-2012, 02:39 PM

If the guy with the gun struck the kid and the kid fought back and punched him and then got shot then yes the shooter has a problem

Brock · 03-23-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

So you are aware that there was a valid reason to keep an eye on treyvon as a stranger in the community?

You can keep an eye on anyone without getting out of your car and chasing him down and accosting him. You're aware of that, right?

qabbaan · 03-23-2012, 02:40 PM

I woulda whipped out my red Ryder, shot the skittles out his hand, then shot his shoelaces so they came untied, and then the snap on his jeans so his pants fell down. Then let the police handle it.

Brock · 03-23-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers

If the guy with the gun struck the kid and the kid fought back and punched him and then got shot then yes the shooter has a problem

He has a problem. He's going to jail for a long time, most likely.

Robo-Chachi · 03-23-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

So you are aware that there was a valid reason to keep an eye on treyvon as a stranger in the community?

No one have a problem if all he did was "keep an eye" on him.

Chiefnj2 · 03-23-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

So you are aware that there was a valid reason to keep an eye on treyvon as a stranger in the community?

No, he was a visitor and invited guest of someone within the community.

R8ers · 03-23-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Calling this guy a 'watchman' is a ****ing joke.

A qualified professional doesnt end up in this situation, nor does he use the stupid language he used with the dispatcher, nor does he ignore what he's being told by the dispatcher... & i still havent heard one single word about what crime this kid supposedly committed that 'allowed' Zimmerman to chase him down.

The Dispatchers are dumbasses and only know what they read off cue cards...

The Dispatchers are sitting in a safe seat..

The Dispatchers want all people to sit behind a door shivering until a cop saves them.

P.S. A cop does not carry a gun to save you, he wears one to save himself

03-08-2012, 11:50 AM
Bump Legalize It Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Boston sucks :( Casino cash: $52916	Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested This is some ****ED UP SHIT, they aren't sure if the racist neighborhood watch idiot should be arrested? If anything, local gangs might take notice of this and start shooting up that neighborhood or just random white neighborhoods. I could never live in the south, it's ridiculous. The guy shoots an innocent teen walking to the store to buy skittles. Should be life in prison, that's cold blood man. http://news.yahoo.com/family-florida...044537742.html ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday. Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said. "He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him." [Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation] Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando. As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person. Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain. Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest. "What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad." Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter. Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents. "If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family. "He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun." Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room." "Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said. (Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)
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03-23-2012, 02:36 PM	#979
Robo-Chachi Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Casino cash: $4888	Apparently only gun owners are allowed to protect themselves.
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scott free ask for it by name Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: district 6 Casino cash: $3129654	Calling this guy a 'watchman' is a ****ing joke. A qualified professional doesnt end up in this situation, nor does he use the stupid language he used with the dispatcher, nor does he ignore what he's being told by the dispatcher... & i still havent heard one single word about what crime this kid supposedly committed that 'allowed' Zimmerman to chase him down.
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R8ers Molôn Labé Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Casino cash: $1030868	If the guy with the gun struck the kid and the kid fought back and punched him and then got shot then yes the shooter has a problem __________________ Chiefs are a playoff team this year...deal with it. -PGM 05/17/13
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qabbaan Veteran Join Date: Jan 2012 Casino cash: $24150	I woulda whipped out my red Ryder, shot the skittles out his hand, then shot his shoelaces so they came untied, and then the snap on his jeans so his pants fell down. Then let the police handle it.
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