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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-23-2012, 03:14 PM   #1051
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If the man would have cold blood murdered this kid with all the backlash, he would have been under the jail by now
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:14 PM   #1052
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The reason that thing is lost in all of this is because people are more focused on the fact that someone who is allegedly completely innocent got followed and killed by some fat piece of shit who wanted to play neighborhood badass with a loaded gun.
I disagree with that. The reason that it gets lost on this is because it doesn't meet the criteria for supporting your assertation that the man initiated it, started a fight, and shot him.

If the kid was freaking he could have easily escaped, called 911, and got away from him. I would bet my ass the kid was followed, the fat man talked to him in a manner he didn't like and the kid busted his ass. At that point in self defense he shot him.
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:14 PM   #1053
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And if he hadnt gotten out of his car to approach someone who had done nothing illegal in the first place... he never WOULD have gotten mussed up.

Do you really think he approached this kid in a calm, professional manner, after telling the dispatcher 'these n*****s always get away'.... yeah right, sure sounds like he just wanted to ask a few simple questions, maybe make a friend instead of an enemy, like a real professional would

Not sure why i'm wrapped up in this conversation like i am, i guess its just mindboggling that so many seem to be looking to excuse this guys obvious bullshit.

He made the situation worse with every decision he made, end of story.
Take your lies elsewhere. It is exactly this ignorance that creates problems.
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:15 PM   #1054
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It is what happened afterward that is being contended. I am advocating for a rational gathering of those facts and a determination of whether to charge with a crime after the investigation is complete.

Not a stampede to 'string him up because a black kid is dead and we're mad as hell and we don't' care what the law says' which is what is being sought after by many.
The police told the crazy ****er with a record to back the **** off. Instead he did the opposite. Now a 17 year old innocent kid is dead. Please string the crazy fat ****er up. Thanks.
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:15 PM   #1055
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And if he hadnt gotten out of his car to approach someone who had done nothing illegal in the first place... he never WOULD have gotten mussed up.

Do you really think he approached this kid in a calm, professional manner, after telling the dispatcher 'these n*****s always get away'.... yeah right, sure sounds like he just wanted to ask a few simple questions, maybe make a friend instead of an enemy, like a real professional would

Not sure why i'm wrapped up in this conversation like i am, i guess its just mindboggling that so many seem to be looking to excuse this guys obvious bullshit.

He made the situation worse with every decision he made, end of story.

Ok, then why isn't the guy in Jail? Are they covering up for him? Does he know Obama or something?

WHY WHY WHY?
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:15 PM   #1056
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WHY IS HE NOT IN JAIL???????
That is what several million people are asking.

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Lee's predecessor, Brian Tooley, retired early in wake of criticism that Sanford police dragged its feet in arresting Justin Collison on charges of knocking out a homeless black man.

It took a month for Collison, the son of a police lieutenant, to be arrested and charged in 2010 with battery, even though the attack was captured on video. Collison eventually pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and was sentenced to probation late last year.

The department was also criticized for delaying the arrest of two security guards with close ties to the department who shot a 16-year-old teen to death in 2005. The guards were arrested several months after the shooting and were eventually cleared.

One of the two guards who shot Travares McGill was a police volunteer and the other was the son of a former police officer. Bryan Ansley and William Swofford claimed they feared for their lives when they shot the teen through a car window.
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:15 PM   #1057
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The police told the crazy ****er with a record to back the **** off. Instead he did the opposite. Now a 17 year old innocent kid is dead. Please string the crazy fat ****er up. Thanks.
No they didn't. He never spoke with the police. Facts are important in cases like this.
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:17 PM   #1058
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The police told the crazy ****er with a record to back the **** off. Instead he did the opposite. Now a 17 year old innocent kid is dead. Please string the crazy fat ****er up. Thanks.
He can't be innocent if the fat dude got punched in the face, unless he was defending himself of course
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:18 PM   #1059
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No I don't. What constitutes a "stranger" anyways? I feel like this is 3rd grade all over again. I don't have the faces of my several hundred neighbors memorized.
Isn't the whole point of a neighborhood watch to watch and report for suspicious activity?

If you're telling me that you're sitting at home one night and some one who looks very different than the people you are accustomed to seeing walks by, you aren't going to keep an eye on him then I say you are priming yourself up for the ****ing.

Bet your ass I'm prepared for some Bullshit.
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:18 PM   #1060
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No they didn't. He never spoke with the police. Facts are important in cases like this.
Oh, so the 911 dispatcher telling him to back off doesn't count? Last time I checked, I couldn't dial a police officer directly. For all intents and purposes, the dispatcher is the police.
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Isn't the whole point of a neighborhood watch to watch and report for suspicious activity?

If you're telling me that you're sitting at home one night and some one who looks very different than the people you are accustomed to seeing walks by, you aren't going to keep an eye on him then I say you are priming yourself up for the ****ing.

Bet your ass I'm prepared for some Bullshit.
Tell em again...
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:20 PM   #1063
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Oh, so the 911 dispatcher telling him to back off doesn't count? Last time I checked, I couldn't dial a police officer directly. For all intents and purposes, the dispatcher is the police.
**** the Dispatcher, who the **** is that person? You don't have to take orders from them, what if the guy attacked afterwards?
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:20 PM   #1064
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Oh, so the 911 dispatcher telling him to back off doesn't count? Last time I checked, I couldn't dial a police officer directly.
For all intents and purposes, the dispatcher is the police.
Dude.
Take a minute to research the difference between a sworn police officer and a call center worker.
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Isn't the whole point of a neighborhood watch to watch and report for suspicious activity?

If you're telling me that you're sitting at home one night and some one who looks very different than the people you are accustomed to seeing walks by, you aren't going to keep an eye on him then I say you are priming yourself up for the ****ing.

Bet your ass I'm prepared for some Bullshit.
He watched and reported. His job was done. The police told him to back off and it was going to be handled. He refused and decided to take the matter in his own hands. He was also carrying a loaded gun. Do the math, champ. The kid wasn't trying to break into anyone's home when he got shot.
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