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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-23-2012, 04:09 PM   #1156
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For ****'s sake, it was not his property. What was he protecting his property from exactly?
It's a giant circle with you isn't it?

If a strange person is wandering around scoping stuff out (and that's what he claims on the 911 tape) I would think that there is something connecting that with the rash of break ins (he also alluded to in the 911 call).
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:11 PM   #1157
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Not how it works.
I know. That's why Zimmerman is not behind bars right now. He says it was self defense, even though it's pretty obvious to anyone who can read that the wanna be cop was trying to be a neighborhood badass, chewed off more than he could swallow and had to resort to using deadly force because he got a bloody lip.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:11 PM   #1158
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Have you ever seen Al Sharptounge go anywhere to protest for a white dude?
Sharptons another story entirely & no, he'll never be 'OUTRAGED' about whitey getting it.

I'll leave this thread for others to fight about, but i'd bet you good money that Zimmerman ends up a second degree murderer when the dust clears.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:12 PM   #1159
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It's a giant circle with you isn't it?

If a strange person is wandering around scoping stuff out (and that's what he claims on the 911 tape) I would think that there is something connecting that with the rash of break ins (he also alluded to in the 911 call).
And that's perfectly fine. Call the police. Was Trayvon on Zimmerman's property?
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:14 PM   #1160
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I know. That's why Zimmerman is not behind bars right now. He says it was self defense, even though it's pretty obvious to anyone who can read that the wanna be cop was trying to be a neighborhood badass, chewed off more than he could swallow and had to resort to using deadly force because he got a bloody lip.
You always struck me as the type of person that would want to have the facts before making a judgement.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:15 PM   #1161
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And that's perfectly fine. Call the police. Was Trayvon on Zimmerman's property?
Which he did and the police found credible enough of a threat to send out someone to investigate

Also, if someone's scoping out my house they sure don't need to be in my yard to do it and like I previously said a gated community is private property owned by the community, of which he was a member
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:15 PM   #1162
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Sharptons another story entirely & no, he'll never be 'OUTRAGED' about whitey getting it.

I'll leave this thread for others to fight about, but i'd bet you good money that Zimmerman ends up a second degree murderer when the dust clears.
If he killed the boy in cold blood he will deserve it too... But there is a good reason why he is not in jail and I want to know it.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:16 PM   #1163
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If he killed the boy in cold blood he will deserve it too... But there is a good reason why he is not in jail and I want to know it.
Have they even released a statement concerning the issue?
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:17 PM   #1164
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If this was a national story solely because a "perceived white guy" killed a black kid, then the country would shut down for 2 weeks every time a black person killed a white person.

It isn't about that. It's about an armed man instigating a confrontation with an unarmed person, killing them and then bearing no consequences afterwards.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:17 PM   #1165
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Have they even released a statement concerning the issue?
Not to my knowledge
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:17 PM   #1166
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If he killed the boy in cold blood he will deserve it too... But there is a good reason why he is not in jail and I want to know it.
Incompetence is the reason. This isn't the first time this department has massively screwed up an investigation. Read up on this a bit. The police botched this from the get-go, including coercing witnesses to change their stories.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:18 PM   #1167
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Not to my knowledge

Well they sure are going to need to. Christ sakes everyone is piping in on it.
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Incompetence is the reason. This isn't the first time this department has massively screwed up an investigation. Read up on this a bit. The police botched this from the get-go, including coercing witnesses to change their stories.
If they did this I hope Zimmerman gets the full force of the law... Time will tell, Obama is on it now, he will probably send the gun runner down to get to the bottom of it
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:19 PM   #1169
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Incompetence is the reason. This isn't the first time this department has massively screwed up an investigation. Read up on this a bit. The police botched this from the get-go, including coercing witnesses to change their stories.
I disagree wholeheartedly with that. If they wanted the easy way out of this thing they sure aren't taking it.
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:19 PM   #1170
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There's a few things that seem to be getting ignored here. Based on the account given by the girl that was on the phone with Trayvon as this was happening.

1. Trayvon DID try to run away. He decided to cut through yards to get away from a stranger following him in a car. He thought he got away, only find the stranger had intercepted him.

2. Zimmerman didn't identify himself as neighborhood watch before physical contact began.


Put yourself in the shoes of a kid being followed by a stranger at night. You choose to elude the stranger's car by running through yards, only to have the guy cut you off on foot. At no point does the stranger state his purpose. At any point would you feel endangered enough to retaliate? After you had already tried the peaceful resolution of escape?
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