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Old 04-17-2012, 09:25 AM  
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11 CHIEFS

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Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College

SHOULD PICK

Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College

The alltime leading tackler in both school and Atlantic Coast Conference history is the perfect player for Kansas City G.M. Scott Pioli: whistle-clean character, great instincts. Kuechly isn't overwhelmingly physical, though. I'd like Dontari Poe here if I were sure he could consistently deliver on the athletic promise he showed at the combine.

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Old 04-17-2012, 12:15 PM   #31
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Our run D was too soft last year. This guy is not the physical presence we need.

Hightower could be that guy, and he's versatile enough to help as a pass rusher. Shouldn't take him at 11 though.
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:06 PM   #32
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If it falls like this and we can't move down, it's Barron or Ingram IMO.

If Kuechly forced 5 fumbles, or had a lot of TFL, I would be all about him being the pick.

I've been saying it for months, this guy is Donnie Edwards.

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Old 04-17-2012, 01:12 PM   #33
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Would hate that pick almost as much as Poe.

The Donnie Edwards comp is a good one - he's a drag tackler that can't rush the passer. And even though he's better than Belcher in coverage, he's still not good in coverage. He still won't be good enough to man up a premier pass-catching TE, so we'll still have to dedicate a safety or Nickle to those guys (i.e. he ultimately makes no difference in the scheme).

He's a horrible pick for this team. He will make absolutely no impact. In 3 years people will be talking about him the same way they talk about Curry - "Oh he was so safe and it seemed like such good situation for him; I just can't see how he failed, blah blah blah"

My premier pissivity picks are Poe, Kuechly and Barron - in that order. And to be honest, the more I read about Kuechly, the more likely I am to move him beyond Poe on the pissed list. At least Poe could actually make a massive impact if motivated. There's absolutely no upside to a Kuechly pick.
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:17 PM   #34
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:20 PM   #35
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Would hate that pick almost as much as Poe.

The Donnie Edwards comp is a good one - he's a drag tackler that can't rush the passer. And even though he's better than Belcher in coverage, he's still not good in coverage. He still won't be good enough to man up a premier pass-catching TE, so we'll still have to dedicate a safety or Nickle to those guys (i.e. he ultimately makes no difference in the scheme).

He's a horrible pick for this team. He will make absolutely no impact. In 3 years people will be talking about him the same way they talk about Curry - "Oh he was so safe and it seemed like such good situation for him; I just can't see how he failed, blah blah blah"

My premier pissivity picks are Poe, Kuechly and Barron - in that order. And to be honest, the more I read about Kuechly, the more likely I am to move him beyond Poe on the pissed list. At least Poe could actually make a massive impact if motivated. There's absolutely no upside to a Kuechly pick.
I tend to agree on Kuechly. He's probably a better fit in the4-3. He's not the thumper, we need, especially at 11.

Also, just for the record, Poe was a captain for Memphis.
Get ready for the pick of Poe.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:35 PM   #36
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Every scouting report I've read about him.....says that he doesn't take on blocks and shed them. He runs around them.
That's incorrect. Kuechly is very effective in taking on blockers. He sheds blocks extremely well.

He's a better prospect than Derrick Johnson was at the same stage (no worry about the inability to self-motivate with Luke). He's more athletic/had better combine numbers than Pat Willis or Jerod Mayo.

He's a three down guy that can play sideline to sideline with incredible instincts.

You want a valid comparision? Think of London Fletcher combined with Brian Urlacher and you've got what Kuechly has the potential to be.

The guy is absolutely elite for the ILB/MLB position.

That being said, I don't think he's a "perfect" fit for the 34 defense that Crennel runs. However, if I was a 43, especially a Cover 2 43 team, I'd be looking at trying to acquire his services as much as possible. I don't see how Seattle passes on him and as such, I think he's the guy that the Chiefs will use to try to trade back down out of the #11 pick. Any 43 team with a question at the MLB spot is going to look hard at getting in front of Seattle to draft Kuechly. He is that good and merits a trade up if you need a MLB in a 43.

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Old 04-17-2012, 05:42 PM   #37
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For the ILB type of play we need from that spot, Hightower is the guy. However I'm not sure how much of an upgrade he is over Belcher. He is a better blitzer, but that's about it.
Not really.

Belcher was a much more effective blitzer at the same stage. In fact, Belcher was playing DE/OLB his senior season at Maine and led the Colonial League with 17.5 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks. He's got excellent leverage and is effective getting under and through tackles/guards. He really does blow up guys pretty effectively. He is also very instinctual in reading plays.

Belcher can blitz just fine. He's simply not asked to do so in this defense.

His Pro Day numbers were almost identical to Hightowers.

You are not getting anything in Hightower that you already have in Belcher other than less experience. Seriously.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:59 PM   #38
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Belcher blitzed well at Maine. Little different than being in the SEC. He isn't asked to blitz, you are right.



However, Hightower was/ is able to move around and play different spots on the defense.


In the end though, like you said, I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Hightower is. He is just getting back to full speed after the knee injury and I think he's a little more athletic than Belcher, but I'm not sure it's alot.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:27 PM   #39
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Do you guys see the Carolina Panthers surprising everybody by taking Kuechly instead of Fletcher Cox? They sucked up the middle last year but they WERE very young- two rookies Sione Fua and Terrell McClain. Plus this draft is exceptionally deep at defensive line.

It's not all that deep on Mike backers. Kuechly's an exceptionally talented one and would fill a need for Carolina.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:52 PM   #41
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Do you guys see the Carolina Panthers surprising everybody by taking Kuechly instead of Fletcher Cox?
I hope Carolina takes Kuechly because that would prevent us from taking him.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:56 PM   #42
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The only game I can remember Belcher being used to blitz more than a time or two was the playoff game against Baltimore and he had 2 sacks iirc.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:34 PM   #43
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Do you guys see the Carolina Panthers surprising everybody by taking Kuechly instead of Fletcher Cox? They sucked up the middle last year but they WERE very young- two rookies Sione Fua and Terrell McClain. Plus this draft is exceptionally deep at defensive line.

It's not all that deep on Mike backers. Kuechly's an exceptionally talented one and would fill a need for Carolina.
Carolina has Jon Beason coming back so I would be surprised if they took Kuechly.
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No f'in way. Yet another person outside of this board with knowledge of football thinks a certain guard from Stanford is worth a Top 15 pick. He actually think he should be picked at #7. Anti-DeCastro posse unite and send nasty grams to Peter King and tell him how stupid he is because you just DO NOT under any circumstances take a guard that high. Only in unity can you get your message out to all those supposed "experts" who constantly see it otherwise.
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I think the assumption that the ilbs job is to only take up blockers is a way over simplification. Teams do pass on first and second down and when they do the ilb must drop..
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