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Old 05-01-2012, 11:14 PM  
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:19 PM   #181
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If the idea was to get a message across to the Republicans and the rest of the American People Paul had for more coverage and opportunity to do that as a Republican candidate than a 3rd party one. Michael Badnarik was in my opinion the best candidate for President in the 2004 but I would guess if a reporter were to ask 100 random people on the street less than 5 would even know who he is.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:22 PM   #182
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If the idea was to get a message across to the Republicans and the rest of the American People Paul had for more coverage and opportunity to do that as a Republican candidate than a 3rd party one. Michael Badnarik was in my opinion the best candidate for President in the 2004 but I would guess if a reporter were to ask 100 random people on the street less than 5 would even know who he is.
The "l" ticket is pretty useless to vote on unless you want a protest vote alone. Whatever happens, it's still a good thing that Paul ran again and that a movement has been built from the ground up with more who think like Paul can gain influence. The GOP Establishment can worm and diss all they want. They just cannot take all of us for granted. There's a movement there. They know it.
Even Steve Forbes has said Paul should be the new Federal Reserve Chairman. I don't think Paul would take it...because Greenspan used to be with the hard money crowd, the libertarians and the Randites. He was considered to have sold out. Plus he is one of the major culprits from all the stimulus for over nearly 20 years.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:27 PM   #183
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Good Lord, are there still people who think Ron Paul would have a chance to win in the general election (even against a weak candidate like Obama)?
Yes. According to Rassmussen, at least...
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:43 PM   #184
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Yes. According to Rassmussen, at least...
I am trying to get the direct link to that on Rasmussen and it's not in the article, I can't find it on Rasmussen but find it on google referring to Rasmussen. I notice you have to now log in to see more? Is this correct? LOL if it is.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:46 PM   #185
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The basic premise to this is wrong. Ron Paul is NOT taking a significant amount of voters AWAY from the Republican base... he is instead ADDING his voters to the party. It's the young kids who would otherwise be liberals(or Green party or Anarchists or some other group) that he has been able to make serious headway among. They are anti-establishment types that would NOT be voting Republican and possibly would instead turn to the Democrats or to a fringe group. Yes this has some effect on the future of the Republican party... but it could also affect the future of the Democratic party ... the youth of America is becoming more and more fiscally conservative while maintaining extremely liberal social ideas. The smart move is for the Repubs to stop alienating these people and throw them a few bones to get them onboard for life.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzogb...s-tests-obama/
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:27 PM   #186
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Dreaming wasn't mentioned in that clip. Ron Paul doesn't see himself in the Oval Office because he knows that he can't win.
"When you lay your head down on the pillow at night, do you see yourself in the Oval Office?"

Ron Paul has already said that he interpreted that as asking him if he dreams of being in the oval office.
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:33 PM   #187
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"When you lay your head down on the pillow at night, do you see yourself in the Oval Office?"

Ron Paul has already said that he interpreted that as asking him if he dreams of being in the oval office.
Nice. Hadn't heard that one.
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:45 PM   #188
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Nice. Hadn't heard that one.
It was his first question in this debate.

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Old 05-05-2012, 04:43 PM   #189
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Maine and Nevada state conventions are this weekend. Ron Paul supporters have been elected as chair at both events. That is a sign they have a clear majority and should be able to sweep the delegates.

In Nevada, Mitt Romney supporters got caught making fake Ron Paul slates.

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Old 05-06-2012, 09:42 PM   #190
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:49 PM   #191
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:51 PM   #192
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Paul is winning in terms of square mileage!
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:56 PM   #193
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Paul is winning in terms of square mileage!
And aren't some of the states proportional?

Any map that doesn't clearly indicate that Mittens is way ahead is not reflecting reality.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:27 PM   #194
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I wish this told me something, but it doesn't.
It's a map that tells you that you are stupid (if you are unable to discern it yourself).

For other dumb people -

Blue states are where Romney has won the most delegates.
Red states are where Paul has won the most delegates.
Green states are where Gingrich has won the most delegates.
Orange states are where Santorum has won the most delegates.
Gray states are still to be determined.

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Old 05-06-2012, 10:29 PM   #195
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And aren't some of the states proportional?

Any map that doesn't clearly indicate that Mittens is way ahead is not reflecting reality.
No. In truth, none of the delegates are bound, due to Rule 38. Any delegate is free to vote their conscience in any round. There is zero legal, historical or precedent of any sort towards punishing a delegate for voting their conscience - and if anyone tried, Rule 38 would give them ample protection.
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