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Old 05-02-2012, 12:05 PM  
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Junior Seau dead, probable suicide

North County Times reporting Seau "found dead by a housekeeper of a gunshot wound to the chest."

https://twitter.com/#!/LATimesfarmer...55054793560065


Junior Seau Dead Cops Investigating Shooting

Cops are currently at Seau's home just outside San Diego. Seau was 43-years-old ... and leaves behind 3 kids and an ex-wife.

Seau was a beast in the NFL -- skyrocketing to fame thanks to his explosive play with the San Diego Chargers, Miami Dolphins and New England Patriots. The USC standout was selected in the first round of the NFL draft in 1990 and played in the league for 20 years.

Seau was involved in a car accident back in 2010 when he drove his SUV off a cliff in Carlsbad, CA hours after he was arrested for allegedly attacking his girlfriend. Seau later said he was not trying to kill himself ... insisting he had fallen asleep at the wheel.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/02/junior-seau-dead/

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Old 05-02-2012, 02:13 PM   #226
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Well if the tobacco industry is still around i'd imagine the NFL will stick around. Theres some more rules changes they can do but I also think the NFLPA is going to have to take a stand as well. Guys targeting guys who've had concussions will have to stop and guys like Harrison should be banned.
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:14 PM   #227
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True, but if it happens to you all the time, you get used to it, and then it's just the same old same old.
That's just the thing. Many of these guys spend years working their way to the top only to have it end VERY suddenly.
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:15 PM   #228
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Jr Seau asked in his suicide letter that his brain be researched to prevent tragic incidents from happening to NFL retirees #champion
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:16 PM   #229
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Bring him in for a look?
I figured a Chiefs fan would want to bring in Derrick Thomas...

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Old 05-02-2012, 02:18 PM   #230
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Jr Seau asked in his suicide letter that his brain be researched to prevent tragic incidents from happening to NFL retirees #champion
So he copied Duerson almost exactly?
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:25 PM   #231
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So he copied Duerson almost exactly?
So where Lawrence Taylor set the blueprint for the modern NFL linebacker, Dave Duerson has established the blueprint for the modern NFL suicide.

Not the easiest way to go, it wouldn't seem.
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:27 PM   #232
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I avoided studying civil procedure like the plague. Dreadfully dull. But I think half of the semester's lectures were spent on the new Twombly/Iqbal standard under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure that plaintiffs get shafted with. That was hard to miss.

Speaking for the other side of the coin, Twombly/Iqbal are there to clean out cases that are extremely weak anyway BEFORE the massive expense of discovery is incurred. You have no idea whatsoever how expensive, time-consuming and distracting discovery is in the new e-Discovery era.

If a case can't survive Twombly/Iqbal analysis, then it wasn't going anywhere anyway, except to put some money in some lawyers' pockets.
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:30 PM   #233
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Good. Your country needs you to be an advocate for change in getting sweeping and effective Tort Reform enacted.
He seems to be advocating the other way -- that the standard for cases surviving motions to dismiss are too HIGH.
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:31 PM   #234
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Speaking for the other side of the coin, Twombly/Iqbal are there to clean out cases that are extremely weak anyway BEFORE the massive expense of discovery is incurred. You have no idea whatsoever how expensive, time-consuming and distracting discovery is in the new e-Discovery era.

If a case can't survive Twombly/Iqbal analysis, then it wasn't going anywhere anyway, except to put some money in some lawyers' pockets.
I agree with that. I didn't mean to put a real negative spin on the new standard, and it wasn't presented to us as a negative either. Just made clear to us that the stakes were raised to a new level for the plaintiff.
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:32 PM   #235
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:33 PM   #236
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Curious to know what % of football players do this compared to the % of non football players.

And would there ever be a way to prove that he would NOT have done this if he had spent his career working for the phone company or something. I knew a guy who did this same thing but never played football.

This will probably get interesting.

Sad news for sure. Hated the guy as a football player but sad to see anyone go out before they need to.
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:34 PM   #237
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When they're all bunched up together, you just throw a net over them or something?
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:34 PM   #238
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How sad....another NFL'er committing suicide. Hope this isn't a trend
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:36 PM   #239
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When they're all bunched up together, you just throw a net over them or something?
Nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:37 PM   #240
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Didn't he lose his house in one of the wildfires? And I vaguely recall some other big setback, maybe with a restaurant or something. I wonder if he was just having problems with civilian life.
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