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Old 05-02-2012, 01:05 PM  
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Junior Seau dead, probable suicide

North County Times reporting Seau "found dead by a housekeeper of a gunshot wound to the chest."

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Junior Seau Dead Cops Investigating Shooting

Cops are currently at Seau's home just outside San Diego. Seau was 43-years-old ... and leaves behind 3 kids and an ex-wife.

Seau was a beast in the NFL -- skyrocketing to fame thanks to his explosive play with the San Diego Chargers, Miami Dolphins and New England Patriots. The USC standout was selected in the first round of the NFL draft in 1990 and played in the league for 20 years.

Seau was involved in a car accident back in 2010 when he drove his SUV off a cliff in Carlsbad, CA hours after he was arrested for allegedly attacking his girlfriend. Seau later said he was not trying to kill himself ... insisting he had fallen asleep at the wheel.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/02/junior-seau-dead/

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Old 05-02-2012, 10:42 PM   #301
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It is hard to understand severe depression if you haven't suffered from it yourself. Sorry you can't feel empathy. People like you piss me off.
I feel empathy for Seau's family and close friends, whose lives are in a bad way right now because of what he did. In light of that, I feel very little for Seau himself.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:44 PM   #302
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While I'm in the camp that is anti-suicide (seeing it as selfish and a cop-out), there is a debate that depression/suicide is a medical condition and not simply a "choice". But, in Seau's case--as in the case of all ex-football players who get hit in the head a lot--the two words in the post I quoted sum it up. There have been many ex-players who've offed themselves, and IMO their repeated blows to the head have something to do with it. (Wasn't there a recent story of an ex-player with a history of mental issues who literally willed his head to the study and research of brain damage because he was so confident it was the reason he was suicidal?) It's tough when a result of the game we all love is stuff like this; but you can't have contact sports without contact, be it football or hockey or even soccer.
What is the suicide rate of nfl players to normal people? Enough difference for it to matter?

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Old 05-02-2012, 10:46 PM   #303
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:48 PM   #304
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:49 PM   #305
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Didn't he lose his house in one of the wildfires? And I vaguely recall some other big setback, maybe with a restaurant or something. I wonder if he was just having problems with civilian life.
We will find out in the coming months, but this is my guess to: financial issues, could not have the life he was used to playing sports anymore and didn't know how to cope..

I guess we will have to do something about all these people making money and protect them from themselves, redistribute the wealth.. Seems logical..
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:49 PM   #306
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I'm not actually suffering from that ailment. I only have about 4 lbs of testicles.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:52 PM   #307
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So, Junior Seau, a really big-time famous football player, kills himself and we need to mourn his death? His mom, brother, and countless NFL players are now paying tribute? No thanks, count me out.

If someone is truly, utterly crazy, maybe they get a pass. Maybe. Only if they are really completely looney tunes. If someone is terminally ill, drugged up and living in a world of pain, and they have talked to everyone and said all their good-byes, then maybe they get a pass too.

But, if someone is just merely depressed, suicide is one of the most unbelievably, horribly, selfish things anyone can ever do, unless they literally have no one who cares about them, which is unlikely unless they are over 90.

With just one stupid, selfish act that person, at least for a while, wrecks the lives of all their family and friends who have to go on after them, mourning and wondering why. Sometimes for years. I guess if someone doesn't care at all about anyone who might care about them, so be it, and it all boggles my mind because life is great, but if isn't great for them for whatever reason, they should at least think about what they might be doing to others.

Screw Junior Seau, he's an idiot, he broke his mom's heart, and I will look down on his tarnished legacy.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:54 PM   #308
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So, Junior Seau, a really big-time famous football player, kills himself and we need to mourn his death? His mom, brother, and countless NFL players are now paying tribute? No thanks, count me out.

If someone is truly, utterly crazy, maybe they get a pass. Maybe. Only if they are really completely looney tunes. If someone is terminally ill, drugged up and living in a world of pain, and they have talked to everyone and said all their good-byes, then maybe they get a pass too.

But, if someone is just merely depressed, suicide is one of the most unbelievably, horribly, selfish things anyone can ever do, unless they literally have no one who cares about them, which is unlikely unless they are over 90.

With just one stupid, selfish act that person, at least for a while, wrecks the lives of all their family and friends who have to go on after them, mourning and wondering why. Sometimes for years. I guess if someone doesn't care at all about anyone who might care about them, so be it, and it all boggles my mind because life is great, but if isn't great for them for whatever reason, they should at least think about what they might be doing to others.

Screw Junior Seau, he's an idiot, he broke his mom's heart, and I will look down on his tarnished legacy.
Not surprised you don't get it at all... not one single bit.
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Old 05-02-2012, 10:56 PM   #309
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I wonder what the suicide rate of non NFL players that that retired at a relative young age from the one thing they worked for since a very young age and reached the pinnacle of that thing that they had worked for...


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So, Junior Seau, a really big-time famous football player, kills himself and we need to mourn his death?
No. You can ignore if you want. I just find it sad. Always liked watching him play, which is something I usually can't find a way to do for a rival player. His energy brought something to the game. Would have liked to think that he would live happily ever after, but apparently that's not the way his story ends.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:00 PM   #311
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Well, you just don't understand us unempathetic jerks! We never meant to become so callous and hateful and cruel and nonunderstanding, it's simply what a complex mixture of events and circumstances brought upon us and you have no right to belittle us for it. If only the world could stop being so ignorant and understand why we're this way they would finally be able to realize that our actions are comprehensible and always good for society no matter what!
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:06 PM   #312
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No. You can ignore if you want. I just find it sad. Always liked watching him play, which is something I usually can't find a way to do for a rival player. His energy brought something to the game. Would have liked to think that he would live happily ever after, but apparently that's not the way his story ends.
I agree with this. Respected his game. Seemed like a characteristic guy. But I have no tolerance for suicide. I don't care about your excuse or crutch. It's weak and it only hurts those who love you.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:08 PM   #313
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Please don't hurt my feelings. I'm feeling very vulnerable right now.
No offense, but you are an asshole on this subject. Go **** yourself. Or do society a favor and shoot yourself, you ****ing prick.
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No offense, but you are an asshole on this subject. Go **** yourself. Or do society a favor and shoot yourself, you ****ing prick.
no offense?

telling someone they are an asshole about suicide, then telling them to go commit suicide?

dipshit.

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no offense?

telling someone they are an asshole about suicude, then telling them to go commit suicide?

dipshit.
Yeah, I meant offense. He's an asshole.
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