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Old 05-02-2012, 12:05 PM  
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Junior Seau dead, probable suicide

North County Times reporting Seau "found dead by a housekeeper of a gunshot wound to the chest."

https://twitter.com/#!/LATimesfarmer...55054793560065


Junior Seau Dead Cops Investigating Shooting

Cops are currently at Seau's home just outside San Diego. Seau was 43-years-old ... and leaves behind 3 kids and an ex-wife.

Seau was a beast in the NFL -- skyrocketing to fame thanks to his explosive play with the San Diego Chargers, Miami Dolphins and New England Patriots. The USC standout was selected in the first round of the NFL draft in 1990 and played in the league for 20 years.

Seau was involved in a car accident back in 2010 when he drove his SUV off a cliff in Carlsbad, CA hours after he was arrested for allegedly attacking his girlfriend. Seau later said he was not trying to kill himself ... insisting he had fallen asleep at the wheel.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/02/junior-seau-dead/

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Old 05-03-2012, 11:55 AM   #466
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They can't be held accountable for basically sticking up their middle finger to their kids and saying "so long, good luck"....
This x1000.

Self destruction is a burden to the family members of anyone, even single people without kids. But if you create multiple human beings (like Junior), you should be expected to take better care of yourself and be held accountable and give a shit more than someone who doesn't, IMO.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:55 AM   #467
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Here's my question though.... We have a person(s) who is so mentally tormented that they're not thinking logically. They can't be held accountable for basically sticking up their middle finger to their kids and saying "so long, good luck"....

Yet, they have the good judgment to shoot themselves in the chest so their brain can be studied. Here he is looking out for his boys, future NFL players but screw you, family. I don't give a rip what you guys get to go through.
Maybe he thought that doing this was the only worthwhile contribution he could make before killing himself.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:56 AM   #468
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It could be, that in his damaged mind, he thought he was doing right by his family to not have to put them through witnessing his slow demise. But that's the thing about trying to rationalize the actions of someone with a broken brain, you can never know.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:56 AM   #469
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This x1000.

Self destruction is a burden to the family members of anyone, even single people without kids. But if you create multiple human beings (like Junior), you should be expected to take better care of yourself and be held accountable and give a shit more than someone who doesn't, IMO.
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:01 PM   #470
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Here's my question though.... We have a person(s) who is so mentally tormented that they're not thinking logically. They can't be held accountable for basically sticking up their middle finger to their kids and saying "so long, good luck"....

Yet, they have the good judgment to shoot themselves in the chest so their brain can be studied. Here he is looking out for his boys, future NFL players but screw you, family. I don't give a rip what you guys get to go through.
Professionals (like myself) do not consider suicides to be selfish acts. And what part of saying "I will preserve my brain," is a sign of good judgment in your opinion? I would suggest it just further shows how backwards and flooded his thinking had become.

Suicide attempts are the result of months and more often years of complex mental torment that becomes unbearable. And the makeup of the brain plays a huge role in it. See this post http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...=259161&page=9

Myself from the link above- Head trauma damages brain neurons, neurons transmit messages throughtout the brain via chemicals known as neurotransmitters, serotonin is a neurotransmitter and a lack of serotonin is a common cause of depression as well as anxiety disorders. Decreased neurons means decreased transmissions of neurotransmitters such as serotonin throughout the brain which means increased risk of depression, especially in conjunction with other issues he apparently faced.

In short, all depression is not considered equal. And that is without even going into the different levels, severities, frequecies, and intesity of symptoms. But strictly speaking of this case it is probable, due to his football history, that he had even poorer physiological brain function than the average person with a depressive disorder.

I promise you that Junior did not say to himself, "I don't care about my loved ones, so I am going to do this for my own benefit."
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:04 PM   #471
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Here's my question though.... We have a person(s) who is so mentally tormented that they're not thinking logically. They can't be held accountable for basically sticking up their middle finger to their kids and saying "so long, good luck"....

Yet, they have the good judgment to shoot themselves in the chest so their brain can be studied. Here he is looking out for his boys, future NFL players but screw you, family. I don't give a rip what you guys get to go through.
Or was he setting up the lawsuit for his family to sue the NFL?

I'm a little confused about the study my brain thing. What's the end game? Ban football? Or give my family money?
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:06 PM   #472
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What's the end game? Ban football? Or give my family money?
Make me a Martyr for the study of Suicide Victims so i can fill that empty hole in my heart that came from never winning The Big One?
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:23 PM   #473
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Make me a Martyr for the study of Suicide Victims so i can fill that empty hole in my heart that came from never winning The Big One?
..or maybe I"m a failure as a father and a human being because I can't give them what they need, so I'll off myself before I hurt them any more than I already have, and maybe I can help keep others from ever being in this position. You just never know.
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Or was he setting up the lawsuit for his family to sue the NFL?

I'm a little confused about the study my brain thing. What's the end game? Ban football? Or give my family money?
There's absolutely zero chance anybody is suing the NFL. Every contract signed says "football is dangerous, you could be hurt, maimed, or killed so by taking this money you and everybody you ever knew can't sue us."
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:12 PM   #475
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The lack of understanding about this stuff in this thread is.. well... not surprising.
I can't believe CP posters are ignorant about something!

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There's absolutely zero chance anybody is suing the NFL. Every contract signed says "football is dangerous, you could be hurt, maimed, or killed so by taking this money you and everybody you ever knew can't sue us."
Well there are lot's of lawsuits against the NFL right now about the concussions so......
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Well there are lot's of lawsuits against the NFL right now about the concussions so......
So I'm wrong? Unpossible.
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There's absolutely zero chance anybody is suing the NFL. Every contract signed says "football is dangerous, you could be hurt, maimed, or killed so by taking this money you and everybody you ever knew can't sue us."
Yeah and stores aren't responsible for carts that damage your vehicle while on their property.
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I can't believe CP posters are ignorant about something!

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A lot of black people ARE racist, being gay IS a choice, and most (not all) depression IS due to selfishness. I think you show your ignorance by thinking otherwise. Determining ignorance is a matter of perspective and obviously yours is wrong.
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A lot of black people ARE racist, being gay IS a choice, and most (not all) depression IS due to selfishness. I think you show your ignorance by thinking otherwise. Determining ignorance is a matter of perspective and obviously yours is wrong.
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