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Old 10-12-2010, 08:24 PM  
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How old was Rich Ganon before he was a franchise QB?

I keep reading how Cassel is 28 and he is in his sixth season and if he hasn't gotten it by now, he never will. Perhaps we should look at someone who had very similar numbers through his first six seasons.

Rich Gannon was drafted in 1987 by the Pats to be a defensive back. When he bristled at the idea, he was traded to Minnesota. In 1990, Gannon started 12 games. The Vikings had a 11-5 record, and the coaches went with Sean Salisbury. He played a lot over the years 1990-1992. He played in at least 12 games in each of those years, and never had more than 2278 yards. his passer rating was never more than 81.5. in 1990, he had 16 td's and 16 Int's. In 1991, he had 12 td's and 6 int's. in 1992, he had 12 Td's and 13 Int's. 1992 was his sixth season.

In 1993, he was picked up by the Redskins. He had three td's and seven interceptions. He played in only seven games. This was his seventh season.

His eighth season didn't come until 1995 because he was out of football in 1994. He had rotator cuff surgery in 1993, but no one was knocking down his door to get him under contract.

In 1995, Gannon worked out for the Chiefs and signed with the team as the BACKUP to Bono. He was a team player. A guy that would be the backup and not complain. A hard worker. The kind of player that coaches like.

He saw action in four games in 1996. He finally started to 'get it'. This was his 9th season. But, the Chiefs didn't have any faith in him and still went out and got Grbac. I believe Gannon signed a two year extension in 1996 because no one wanted him to be a starter.

Over the course of 1997 and 1998, he started a total of 16 games and played in a total of 21. His passer rating was about 80 over those two years. He threw for 3349 yards in those two seasons combined.

This was years 10 and 11.

The Raiders rewarded Gannon's mediocre numbers over his 11 seasons in the league with an opportunity to win the starting job.

We all know how it turned out.

This is a folk hero around these parts.... and yet, through his first 10 seasons, he was not an extremely accurate passer. He didn't throw downfield very well. He struggled to read defenses. And he was athletic.

Oh, AND he took a ton of sacks. He was sacked 302 times in 4206 pass attempts.

Heck, he wasn't even drafted to be a QB.


Through his first six seasons, Gannon had thrown 1003 passes. He had completed 561 passes. He completed 55.9% of his passes. He had 40 TD's and 36 Int's. He averaged 6.4 yards per attempt. He averaged 11.5 yards per completion. He had 81 sacks, or at about 8 percent of his pass attempts.

Through Cassel's first six seasons, he has thrown 1154 passes. He has completed 678 of them. He is completing 58.7% of his passes. He has 43 TD's. He has 32 Int's. He has averaged 6.5 yards per attempt. He has averaged 11.09 yards per completion. He has 96 sacks, which is about 8% of his pass attempts.

Will Cassel be Gannon? Probably not. But, Gannon wasn't Gannon until his 12th season in the league.... or twice as long as Cassel has been in the league...... That is when Gannon really got it and became a pro bowl QB.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:25 PM   #2
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:27 PM   #3
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So...just several more years to go.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:29 PM   #4
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Cool.

6 more years and we'll have ourselves a franchise QB boys.

All we need is a little patience.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:31 PM   #5
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So...just several more years to go.
I can't WAIT for 2016!!!!
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:31 PM   #6
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I don't consider Gannon a franchise QB.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:31 PM   #7
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I don't consider Gannon a franchise QB.
He wasn't.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:31 PM   #8
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Cool.

6 more years and we'll have ourselves a franchise QB boys.

All we need is a little patience.
Should we sit Charles and McCluster, too, to save them for that time? Maybe hermetically seal them so they don't age?
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:31 PM   #9
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:32 PM   #10
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:33 PM   #11
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Just think.

If we wait just 6 more years for Cassel to become a franchise QB like Gannon, we'll have a franchise QB for 4 years, just like Gannon was.

How could we ever ask for more?

We're so selfish.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:34 PM   #12
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Where are all the posts reminding us about the Trent Green situation? How everyone was sure that this place criticized Green as sharply as Cassel and that the former proved all these non-GMs wrong?

They were pervasive leading up to the start of the season. Wonder why they stopped? And now it's Gannon?
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:35 PM   #13
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:35 PM   #14
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Pffft......


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Old 10-12-2010, 08:36 PM   #15
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So Cassel needs to get a hell of a lot more experience(and I'm assuming Gannon played QB in college, putting him ahead of the curve). THEN we need to injure his arm. Yeah I'd rather just draft a QB with more upside and get a better product in less time.
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