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Old 05-24-2012, 09:03 PM  
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Among the 3 quarterbacks on the roster, the guy who threw the ball best on Thursday was Brady Quinn. He appears to have solid mechanics in his drop and has smoothed out some rough edges that were visible in his motion going back to Notre Dame. Matt Cassel threw several nice passes, but he was high on his throws during much of the session. Ricky Stanzi was OK. @Iowa homers.

“I think they’re beginning to gain a command of the system and some of the checks that we have in place,” Crennel said. “They’re all doing well. Probably, Brady and Matt are a little ahead of Stanzi right now, but they’re all working at it. They’re a good group in that room, so we feel good about them.”
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:02 PM   #211
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the chiefs let the best QB of this latest team go to dallas. orton was way ahead of the curve compared to the remaining group. brady quinn was a 1st rounder because he did play in a pro style offense during college, and he did okay with it. but, guys are never going to be wide open like it is in college and I don't see where quinn has been any more effective in the NFL than cassel.

but, if experience makes QB's better over time, he should be able to pull ahead of the inexperienced cassel.

a lot has been made of cassel's lacking collegiate career, it does make a diff imo and it makes a diff that quinn played in a pro style offense during college.

but, and this is really important to me with regard to the passing game and specifically the QB position, I don't see the fire from either player, the command and venom of a stryker, a sniper and conductor of field position.

this staff can blow smoke for only a lil bit longer imo. they'll keep their job through this and next season, but if they can't win a playoff game by the next season, they will be expendable. actually, I doubt RC will want to coach after 2013, he's getting up there in age and doesn't move real well as is.

anyway, it would be cool to see quinn beat cassel or take over with success because from what is coming out from otas right now, stanzi needs another season before he can compete to become the manzi and really, if brady quinn wants to stay in the NFL his time is now.

quinn is entering year five. if he paid attn this past 4 years, he should be mature enough to compete with cassel. he certainly has the tools.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:19 PM   #212
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He's a borderline NFL player. He probably shouldn't even be in the league.
I don't know. Quinn has been one of the biggest mysteries to me as an NFL player. Everyone talks about his exceptional work ethic. He's prototype size. Came from a pro system. Loves the game. Has a nice arm.

I can't explain why he isn't a starter somewhere other than he ran into some bad breaks up to this point:

Rookie in 2007. Up to that point, it was rare to see a rookie quarterback start in the league. Derek Anderson has a pretty good season and is named the starter for 2008, but goes in the tank eight games in and Quinn gets the nod. In game two of his starting career he breaks his finger and he's out for the season. 2009, Crennel gets fired and it was a literal mess under Mangini - really defined the term "quarterback controversy." 2010 gets traded to Denver, where Orton is already the incumbent QB. 2011 - Tebowmania.

I just really dont' think he's ever been given a legit chance to prove if he's capable of being a starting NFL QB despite having all the intangibles.

He'll get his chance here in KC. Might not ever see a better chance actually as it seems apparent that the coaching staff wants to see a QB competition and the front office has to understand the outside/fans perceptions of Matt Cassel as the starter.

I think he's got the potential to be a pretty good NFL QB, especially in this system with this team and probably understands that opportunities like this are few and far between at this point of his career.

I hope he puts it together. I'm pulling for him at this point as I think he's the best chance the Chiefs have in terms of fielding a team that has the potential to actually win a playoff game and then see where it goes.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:23 PM   #213
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I don't know. Quinn has been one of the biggest mysteries to me as an NFL player. Everyone talks about his exceptional work ethic. He's prototype size. Came from a pro system. Loves the game. Has a nice arm.

I can't explain why he isn't a starter somewhere other than he ran into some bad breaks up to this point:

Rookie in 2007. Up to that point, it was rare to see a rookie quarterback start in the league. Derek Anderson has a pretty good season and is named the starter for 2009, but goes in the tank eight games in and Quinn gets the nod. In game two of his starting career he breaks his finger and he's out for the season. 2009, Crennel gets fired and it was a literal mess under Mangini - really defined the term "quarterback controversy." 2010 gets traded to Denver, where Orton is already the incumbent QB. 2011 - Tebowmania.

I just really dont' think he's ever been given a legit chance to prove if he's capable of being a starting NFL QB despite having all the intangibles.

He'll get his chance here in KC. Might not ever see a better chance actually as it seems apparent that the coaching staff wants to see a QB competition and the front office has to understand the outside/fans perceptions of Matt Cassel as the starter.

I think he's got the potential to be a pretty good NFL QB, especially in this system with this team and probably understands that opportunities like this are few and far between at this point of his career.

I hope he puts it together. I'm pulling for him at this point as I think he's the best chance the Chiefs have in terms of fielding a team that has the potential to actually win a playoff game and then see where it goes.
I can't believe you all are so blind it's ****ing ridiculous. If he went to any other team, yall would be saying the same shit I'm saying. And that's damn sad that because he's a Chief, yall got blinders on.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:26 PM   #214
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I don't know. Quinn has been one of the biggest mysteries to me as an NFL player. Everyone talks about his exceptional work ethic. He's prototype size. Came from a pro system. Loves the game. Has a nice arm.

I can't explain why he isn't a starter somewhere other than he ran into some bad breaks up to this point:

Rookie in 2007. Up to that point, it was rare to see a rookie quarterback start in the league. Derek Anderson has a pretty good season and is named the starter for 2008, but goes in the tank eight games in and Quinn gets the nod. In game two of his starting career he breaks his finger and he's out for the season. 2009, Crennel gets fired and it was a literal mess under Mangini - really defined the term "quarterback controversy." 2010 gets traded to Denver, where Orton is already the incumbent QB. 2011 - Tebowmania.

I just really dont' think he's ever been given a legit chance to prove if he's capable of being a starting NFL QB despite having all the intangibles.

He'll get his chance here in KC. Might not ever see a better chance actually as it seems apparent that the coaching staff wants to see a QB competition and the front office has to understand the outside/fans perceptions of Matt Cassel as the starter.

I think he's got the potential to be a pretty good NFL QB, especially in this system with this team and probably understands that opportunities like this are few and far between at this point of his career.

I hope he puts it together. I'm pulling for him at this point as I think he's the best chance the Chiefs have in terms of fielding a team that has the potential to actually win a playoff game and then see where it goes.
I think thats why he turned down more money from other teams. He knows KC is his best chance at success. He knows he can be successful here and in the long run make even more money.
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I think thats why he turned down more money from other teams. He knows KC is his best chance at success. He knows he can be successful here and in the long run make even more money.
Jesus Christ.

Some of you really think we're gonna make a hypothetical run at a Super Bowl with Romeo Crennel, Brian Daboll and Brady Quinn leading our team.

Jesus ****ing Christ.

What's next, Arrowhead gonna get a Dawg Pound?
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I can't believe you all are so blind it's ****ing ridiculous. If he went to any other team, yall would be saying the same shit I'm saying. And that's damn sad that because he's a Chief, yall got blinders on.
I've always thought he wasnt given a fair shake in Cleveland.

I was surprised he was let go for so little.
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I can't believe you all are so blind it's ****ing ridiculous. If he went to any other team, yall would be saying the same shit I'm saying. And that's damn sad that because he's a Chief, yall got blinders on.
No, I wouldn't.

Like I said, Quinn has everything you want in an NFL QB. Protosize. Nice arm. Great work ethic. He's got a nice touch on the ball.

I'm glad he's here. I'm not saying he's Joe Montana. I'm saying that he's potentially a better option than we've had at the QB position since Trent Green, and maybe better.

You can't judge him on 12 games and there were the reasons that I pointed out as to why he hasn't been given a chance. He gets that chance now.

However, if you want to implode about having him on the team - go right ahead. Maybe Cassel has a really good summer camp and preseason and is yet again the starter and you don't have to worry about Quinn being under center for the Chiefs. I'm sure that will make you happy.
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If Quinn didn't think he could be good QB in this league he would have went with more money instead of coming here.
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Jesus Christ.

Some of you really think we're gonna make a hypothetical run at a Super Bowl with Romeo Crennel, Brian Daboll and Brady Quinn leading our team.

Jesus ****ing Christ.

What's next, Arrowhead gonna get a Dawg Pound?
I don't think that anyone is talking about a Super Bowl. Most people are simply trying to be realistic that Quinn offers more in terms of potential/team success than Cassel.

Add a solid QB to a relatively solid team on both sides of the ball and that gives this team a legit shot to win the AFC West and the playoffs.

To be honest, having Hudson at center, Winston at RT, a backfield of Hillis and Charles and a healthy Berry is reason enough for some elevated hope. Having a guy like Quinn, who has the potential to be a lot more than we currently have in Cassel, is just icing on the cake.
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I don't think that anyone is talking about a Super Bowl. Most people are simply trying to be realistic that Quinn offers more in terms of potential/team success than Cassel.


Get the **** out.

He has never done shit in this league.

What's more likely, he's actually a horrendous QB, or he's a previously undiscovered diamond in the rough.

He doesn't offer shit for potential.
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I don't think that anyone is talking about a Super Bowl. Most people are simply trying to be realistic that Quinn offers more in terms of potential/team success than Cassel.

Add a solid QB to a relatively solid team on both sides of the ball and that gives this team a legit shot to win the AFC West and the playoffs.

To be honest, having Hudson at center, Winston at RT, a backfield of Hillis and Charles and a healthy Berry is reason enough for some elevated hope. Having a guy like Quinn, who has the potential to be a lot more than we currently have in Cassel, is just icing on the cake.
Solid take.

My thoughts, exactly.
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Get the **** out.

He has never done shit in this league.

What's more likely, he's actually a horrendous QB, or he's a previously undiscovered diamond in the rough.

He doesn't offer shit for potential.
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