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Old 05-24-2012, 09:03 PM  
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Among the 3 quarterbacks on the roster, the guy who threw the ball best on Thursday was Brady Quinn. He appears to have solid mechanics in his drop and has smoothed out some rough edges that were visible in his motion going back to Notre Dame. Matt Cassel threw several nice passes, but he was high on his throws during much of the session. Ricky Stanzi was OK. @Iowa homers.

“I think they’re beginning to gain a command of the system and some of the checks that we have in place,” Crennel said. “They’re all doing well. Probably, Brady and Matt are a little ahead of Stanzi right now, but they’re all working at it. They’re a good group in that room, so we feel good about them.”
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:02 PM   #391
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Without naming the QBs, which would you prefer based on their stats?

QB 1-76TDs 45 INTs 18 Fumbles, QB Rating 82.5

QB2-60 TDs 37 INTs 8 fumbles, QB Rating 84.7

QB3-51 TDs, 46 INTs, 9 Fumbles QB Rating 79.0

QB4-55TDs, 51 INTs, 17 Fumbles, QB Rating 73.2

I'll reveal the players later.
#1 is Cassel.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:03 PM   #392
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Who said it wasn't more productive fuqtard? It should have been. For once, there was actually time for pre-snap reads. That is why Orton didn't prove shit. Not only did he have an unfair advantage over Cassel, but he didn't actually produce but 1 TD. All those yards mean shit without points.
It's maddening talking to some of these people. Orton produced one friggin TD in 3 games. ONE and he's a friggin idol around here.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:03 PM   #393
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...and there lies the problem. You're willing to ignore the actual stats and blindly dimiss his play, because of his name.
Had QB 2 then QB 1
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:04 PM   #394
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Who said it wasn't more productive fuqtard? It should have been. For once, there was actually time for pre-snap reads. That is why Orton didn't prove shit. Not only did he have an unfair advantage over Cassel, but he didn't actually produce but 1 TD. All those yards mean shit without points.
My point is Orton is better at pushing the ball down field. Something Cassel has shown to be very inconsistent with.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:07 PM   #395
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My point is Orton is better at pushing the ball down field. Something Cassel has shown to be very inconsistent with.
My point is Cassel is better at putting the ball into the endzone, especially from within' the 20. Something Orton has show to be borderline retarded at throughout his career.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:09 PM   #396
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It's maddening talking to some of these people. Orton produced one friggin TD in 3 games. ONE and he's a friggin idol around here.
Hell, his poor decisions is what cost us the Raiders game and almost cost us the Packers game. The INT after Bowe's drop in the Raiders game was just embarrassing. And in the Packers game, we had 5 Redzone trips and came up with 4 field goals.

Orton cannot win you games. He's a game manager just like Cassel.
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...and there lies the problem. You're willing to ignore the actual stats and blindly dismiss his play, because of his name.
His overall play is shit.

Have you seen Elways numbers? Very pedestrian.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:12 PM   #398
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Cassel is just another average QB. There are several starting every year in the NFL. I'd say 7 or so teams start QBs that should be backups. There aren't enough good QBs for 32 teams. The problem I have, when you have one of those, you should enter every year looking to improve, and this year the Chiefs didn't do that. Orton and Cassel are both one of those QBs. So it really doesn't matter, Orton doesn't offer any advantage.
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...and there lies the problem. You're willing to ignore the actual stats and blindly dismiss his play, because of his name.
Cassel is SHIT.
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Cassel is SHIT.
No one has really argued otherwise.
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His overall play is shit.

Have you seen Elways numbers? Very pedestrian.
exactly, stats never tell the whole story, good or bad.
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No one has really argued otherwise.
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...and there lies the problem. You're willing to ignore the actual stats and blindly dismiss his play, because of his name.

did you not read my prior post that was quoted by BCF?
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Hell, his poor decisions is what cost us the Raiders game and almost cost us the Packers game. The INT after Bowe's drop in the Raiders game was just embarrassing. And in the Packers game, we had 5 Redzone trips and came up with 4 field goals.

Orton cannot win you games. He's a game manager just like Cassel.
Yep. The fan base is so desperate for a franchise QB, they think any old POS can magically drive Cassel to the bench, when the numbers don't support that, no matter how much they wish it so. They are willing to cut off their noses to spite their faces.
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exactly, stats never tell the whole story, good or bad.
You're right. But seeing his stats and watching him play, it's clear that Kyle Orton is one of the worst red zone QBs in the league. If you want a QB like that, fine, I'd rather not.
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Cassel is SHIT.
Orton is the pile of shit that sits just adjacent to the pile of Cassel shit. The Cassel shit has been there so long in plain view, and he's begun to fester a bit and turn into the white nasty shit. While the pile of Orton shit is a bit more fresh and less white, it is shit just the same. So drop it.
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