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Old 06-07-2012, 10:36 AM  
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Obama was a member of socialist "New Party" in the 1990s

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Obama’s Third-Party History
New documents shed new light on his ties to a leftist party in the 1990s.
By Stanley Kurtz

On the evening of January 11, 1996, while Mitt Romney was in the final
years of his run as the head of Bain Capital, Barack Obama formally
joined the New Party, which was deeply hostile to the mainstream of
the Democratic party and even to American capitalism. In 2008,
candidate Obama deceived the American public about his potentially
damaging tie to this third party. The issue remains as fresh as
today’s headlines, as Romney argues that Obama is trying to move the
United States toward European-style social democracy, which was
precisely the New Party’s goal.

In late October 2008, when I wrote here at National Review Online that
Obama had been a member of the New Party, his campaign sharply denied
it, calling my claim a "crackpot smear." Fight the Smears, an official
Obama-campaign website, staunchly maintained that "Barack has been a
member of only one political party, the Democratic Party." I rebutted
this, but the debate was never taken up by the mainstream press.

Recently obtained evidence from the updated records of Illinois ACORN
at the Wisconsin Historical Society now definitively establishes that
Obama was a member of the New Party. He also signed a "contract"
promising to publicly support and associate himself with the New Party
while in office.

Minutes of the meeting on January 11, 1996, of the New Party’s Chicago
chapter read as follows:

Barack Obama, candidate for State Senate in the 13th Legislative
District, gave a statement to the membership and answered questions.
He signed the New Party "Candidate Contract" and requested an
endorsement from the New Party. He also joined the New Party.


Consistent with this, a roster of the Chicago chapter of the New Party
from early 1997 lists Obama as a member, with January 11, 1996,
indicated as the date he joined.

Knowing that Obama disguised his New Party membership helps make sense
of his questionable handling of the 2008 controversy over his ties to
ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). During
his third debate with John McCain, Obama said that the "only"
involvement he’d had with ACORN was to represent the group in a
lawsuit seeking to compel Illinois to implement the National Voter
Registration Act, or motor-voter law. The records of Illinois ACORN
and its associated union clearly contradict that assertion.

Why did Obama deny his ties to ACORN? The group was notorious in 2008
for thug tactics, fraudulent voter registrations, and its role in
popularizing risky subprime lending. Admitting that he had helped to
fund ACORN’s voter-registration efforts and train some of their
organizers would doubtless have been an embarrassment but not likely a
crippling blow to his campaign. So why not simply confess the tie and
make light of it? The problem for Obama was ACORN’s political arm, the
New Party.

The revelation in 2008 that Obama had joined an ACORN-controlled,
leftist third party could have been damaging indeed, and coming clean
about his broader work with ACORN might easily have exposed these New
Party ties. Because the work of ACORN and the New Party often
intersected with Obama’s other alliances, honesty about his ties to
either could have laid bare the entire network of his leftist
political partnerships.

Although Obama is ultimately responsible for deceiving the American
people in 2008 about his political background, he got help from his
old associates. Each of the two former political allies who helped him
to deny his New Party membership during campaign ’08 was in a position
to know better.

The Fight the Smears website quoted Carol Harwell, who managed Obama’s
1996 campaign for the Illinois senate: "Barack did not solicit or seek
the New Party endorsement for state senator in 1995." Drawing on her
testimony, Fight the Smears conceded that the New Party did support
Obama in 1996 but denied that Obama had ever joined, adding that "he
was the only candidate on the ballot in his race and never solicited
the endorsement."

We’ve seen that this is false. Obama formally requested New Party
endorsement, signed the candidate contract, and joined the party. Is
it conceivable that Obama’s own campaign manager could have been
unaware of this? The notion is implausible. And the documents make
Harwell’s assertion more remarkable still.

The New Party had a front group called Progressive Chicago, whose job
was to identify candidates that the New Party and its sympathizers
might support. Nearly four years before Obama was endorsed by the New
Party, both he and Harwell joined Progressive Chicago and began
signing public letters that regularly reported on the group’s
meetings. By prominently taking part in Progressive Chicago
activities, Obama was effectively soliciting New Party support for his
future political career (as was Harwell, on Obama’s behalf). So
Harwell’s testimony is doubly false.

When the New Party controversy broke out, just about the only
mainstream journalist to cover it was Politico’s Ben Smith, whose
evident purpose was to dismiss it out of hand. He contacted Obama’s
official spokesman Ben LaBolt, who claimed that his candidate "was
never a member" of the New Party. And New Party co-founder and leader
Joel Rogers told Smith, "We didn’t really have members." But a line in
the New Party’s official newsletter explicitly identified Obama as a
party member. Rogers dismissed that as mere reference to "the fact
that the party had endorsed him."
This is nonsense. I exposed the falsity of Rogers’s absurd claim, and
Smith’s credulity in accepting it, in 2008 (here and here). And in
Radical-in-Chief I took on Rogers’s continuing attempts to justify it.
The recently uncovered New Party records reveal how dramatically far
from the truth Rogers’s statement has been all along.

In a memo dated January 29, 1996, Rogers, writing as head of the New
Party Interim Executive Council, addressed "standing concerns
regarding existing chapter development and activity, the need for
visibility as well as new members." So less than three weeks after
Obama joined the New Party, Rogers was fretting about the need for new
members. How, then, could Rogers assert in 2008 that his party "didn’t
really have members"? Internal documents show that the entire
leadership of the New Party, both nationally and in Chicago, was
practically obsessed with signing up new members, from its founding
moments until it dissolved in the late 1990s.

In 2008, after I called Rogers out on his ridiculous claim that his
party had no members, he explained to Ben Smith that "we did have
regular supporters whom many called ‘members,’ but it just meant
contributing regularly, not getting voting rights or other formal
power in NP governance." This is also flatly contradicted by the newly
uncovered records.

At just about the time Obama joined the New Party, the Chicago chapter
was embroiled in a bitter internal dispute. A party-membership list is
attached to a memo in which the leaders of one faction consider a
scheme to disqualify potential voting members from a competing
faction, on the grounds that those voters had not renewed their
memberships. The factional leaders worried that their opponents would
legitimately object to this tactic, since a mailing that called for
members to renew hadn’t been properly sent out. At any rate, the memo
clearly demonstrates that, contrary to Rogers’s explanation,
membership in the New Party entailed the right to vote on matters of
party governance. In fact, Obama’s own New Party endorsement, being
controversial, was thrown open to a members’ vote on the day he joined
the party.

Were Harwell and Rogers deliberately lying in order to protect Obama
and deceive the public? Readers can decide for themselves. Yet it is
clear that Obama, through his official spokesman, Ben LaBolt, and the
Fight the Smears website, was bent on deceiving the American public
about a matter whose truth he well knew.

The documents reveal that the New Party’s central aim was to move the
United States steadily closer to European social democracy, a goal
that Mitt Romney has also attributed to Obama. New Party leaders
disdained mainstream Democrats, considering them tools of business,
and promised instead to create a partnership between elected officials
and local community organizations, with the goal of socializing the
American economy to an unprecedented degree.

The party’s official "statement of principles," which candidates
seeking endorsement from the Chicago chapter were asked to support,
called for a "peaceful revolution" and included redistributive
proposals substantially to the left of the Democratic party.

To get a sense of the ideology at play, consider that the meeting at
which Obama joined the party opened with the announcement of a
forthcoming event featuring the prominent socialist activist Frances
Fox Piven. The Chicago New Party sponsored a luncheon with Michael
Moore that same year.

I have more to say on the New Party’s ideology and program, Obama’s
ties to the party, and the relevance of all this to the president’s
campaign for reelection. See the forthcoming issue of National Review.

In the meantime, let us see whether a press that let candidate Obama
off the hook in 2008 - and that in 2012 is obsessed with the
president’s youthful love letters - will now refuse to report that
President Obama once joined a leftist third party, and that he hid
that truth from the American people in order to win the presidency.

-Stanley Kurtz is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy
Center. A longer version of this article appears in the forthcoming
June 25 issue of National Review.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:40 AM   #2
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This was actually posted a couple of years ago but it's always a good reminder and just another dose of truth to the Obots which won't help but it doesn't hurt to try
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:17 AM   #3
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This was actually posted a couple of years ago but it's always a good reminder and just another dose of truth to the Obots which won't help but it doesn't hurt to try
If you read the article, you'd have heard about the impact of new evidence which contradicts the campaign's excuses. It's not an old article.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:21 AM   #4
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If you read the article, you'd have heard about the impact of new evidence which contradicts the campaign's excuses. It's not an old article.
My bad. You are correct it is not an old article but it is by the same journalist and why when I glanced at the thread title and author I thought it was the same.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:22 AM   #5
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Let's see how many people who truly and sincerely doubt an actual birth certificate, hte statements of the Republican Governor/Secretary of State of Hawaii and contemporaneous newspaper accounts automatically assume, without any supporting documents whatsoever, that OF COURSE Obama was a "card-carrying member" of the New Party...

I for one will reserve judgment altogether, as I know nothing about the New Party or the author of this article, and haven't seen anything except his diatribe to prove anything about anything. After watchign the antics of the right in such things as "SwiftBoating", one really must take things with a grain of salt.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:30 AM   #6
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The vetting continues..?
Yep ! But no way in hell this gets any traction with the Mainstream Stenography Progressive Media except for Fox possibly.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:35 AM   #7
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This is totally a winning issue the R's should run on.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:36 AM   #8
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Let's see how many people who truly and sincerely doubt an actual birth certificate, hte statements of the Republican Governor/Secretary of State of Hawaii and contemporaneous newspaper accounts automatically assume, without any supporting documents whatsoever, that OF COURSE Obama was a "card-carrying member" of the New Party...

I for one will reserve judgment altogether, as I know nothing about the New Party or the author of this article, and haven't seen anything except his diatribe to prove anything about anything. After watchign the antics of the right in such things as "SwiftBoating", one really must take things with a grain of salt.
Were you that forgiving during the Bush years?

I know the left seem to have a blind eye towards Obama just as the right has with anyone Republican, but are the things he's doing really escape the collective left? Bypassing Congress when he feels the need is something that shoud concern everyone. If a republican did the same thing everyone should be concerned.

I'd like America survive and once again the the example that other nations would like to emulate. Since Obama has been in office I've read and seen video from other countries that are having a blast making fun of America and their Hope and Change guy.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:39 AM   #9
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Let's see how many people who truly and sincerely doubt an actual birth certificate, hte statements of the Republican Governor/Secretary of State of Hawaii and contemporaneous newspaper accounts automatically assume, without any supporting documents whatsoever, that OF COURSE Obama was a "card-carrying member" of the New Party...

I for one will reserve judgment altogether, as I know nothing about the New Party or the author of this article, and haven't seen anything except his diatribe to prove anything about anything. After watchign the antics of the right in such things as "SwiftBoating", one really must take things with a grain of salt.
So this author is bluffing that he has new evidence and Obama never signed on to the roster of the New Party? Is this what you are saying?
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:39 AM   #10
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Lied about membership in a socialist 3rd party? Check

Lied about his embrace of socialist black liberation theology? Check

Lied about his relationship with socialist terror couple Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorne? Check

CP liberals laughing at the idea that Obama is a socialist? Check (your heads)
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This is totally a winning issue the R's should run on.
And why you are still Dittsy !!
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:41 AM   #12
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I'd like to see the actual evidence and documents, honestly.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:42 AM   #13
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Lied about membership in a socialist 3rd party? Check

Lied about his embrace of socialist black liberation theology? Check

Lied about his relationship with socialist terror couple Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorne? Check

CP liberals laughing at the idea that Obama is a socialist? Check (your heads)


CP Marxist Libs just have a very difficult time acknowledging "The Duck" in the room !!
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:51 AM   #14
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IMO what is becoming apparent is that Obama has used every opportunity to modify his history and beliefs in order to get what he wants. I do not believe he is from Kenya or a supporter of the socialist party but I do believe that he has used the story that he was born in Kenya to gain an advantage, and also used multiple radical entity's to further his career. He has actually used these lies to his advantage even when caught.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:53 AM   #15
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I'd like to see the actual evidence and documents, honestly.
It's Kurtz from National Review. I assure you it's there as he said you can see more detail in the magazine article.

He is just waiting for a 'walk back acknowledgment' of his earlier article back in 2008 in which his work was called a 'smear tactic' by the Mainstream Stenography Progressive Media. He won't get it from them of course and then he will probably go on a full media blitz starting with Fox at that point and force the issue going forward.

You don't call Kurtz a smear monger and get away with it is my point.
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