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Old 06-12-2012, 10:45 AM  
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Poe.

He shows up to the Combine at 346 lbs.

Looking like this.



He shows up to OTAs.

Looking like this.



He does not, unless I've completely missed the boat here, have a contract.

He is not yet getting paid.

But he is working his ****ing ass off at practice.

And is STAYING AFTER TO WORK ON TECHNIQUE.

While NOT getting paid for it.

Let's keep the Poe train going. Holy geez, I am really loving this kid.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:31 AM   #16
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I don't have too high expectations for him this year but am excited that we get the opportunity to watch this kid blossom and hope in short few years he becomes the dominate DT we have been looking for.


Now for Dorsey & T Jack this is the year they better produce and no excuses for them.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:31 AM   #17
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I wonder how many rookies have been working at the OTAs without a signed deal? IMO Poe is a highly motivated individual because people questioned him as the 11th pick in the draft. He's out to prove those people wrong and to me Chiefs fans couldn't ask for a better scenario.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:40 AM   #18
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My main concern with him is his lacking technique and he seems docile. He's going to need a season or two before he lives up to expectations.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:01 PM   #19
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:03 PM   #20
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My main concern with him is his lacking technique and he seems docile. He's going to need a season or two before he lives up to expectations.
Yeah, i wouldn't expect much in his first year. I don't expect to see what we truely have till his 3rd or 4th season.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:11 PM   #21
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Yeah, i wouldn't expect much in his first year. I don't expect to see what we truely have till his 3rd or 4th season.
What's your expectations for Dorsey & T Jack?

This is the year they both better damn well do there jobs. I think they do fine in run defense but we suffer at getting to the QB with them. I'm hoping with Poe he helps collapse the pocket on the inside & T Jack & Dorsey have better routes to the QB, somebody is going be double teamed & taking up blocks for Hali to get there quicker.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:25 PM   #22
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What's your expectations for Dorsey & T Jack?

This is the year they both better damn well do there jobs. I think they do fine in run defense but we suffer at getting to the QB with them. I'm hoping with Poe he helps collapse the pocket on the inside & T Jack & Dorsey have better routes to the QB, somebody is going be double teamed & taking up blocks for Hali to get there quicker.
I think Dorsey is all he's going to be at this point, which isn't bad.

He's gonna be a solid yet unspectacular 10 year pro, and no, i dont think he's going put up better numbers in a 43 either. He's going up against LG's in the 34. He's going to be going up against LG's in a 43 as well.

"But, but Detoxing! It's the schemes fault! If he were in a 43 he would get better sack numbers because he has to tie up blockers in a 34"

BS BS BS

On passing downs, Hali is taking on LT's and Dorsey is getting 1vs1 matchups vs the LG and he just doesn't get it one. That's not going to change in a 43.

Jackson? I guess we'll see, but i think he'll have a similar career as Dorsey.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:28 PM   #23
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What's your expectations for Dorsey & T Jack?

This is the year they both better damn well do there jobs. I think they do fine in run defense but we suffer at getting to the QB with them. I'm hoping with Poe he helps collapse the pocket on the inside & T Jack & Dorsey have better routes to the QB, somebody is going be double teamed & taking up blocks for Hali to get there quicker.
This.

How many times has Hali been so close to either a sack or knocking the ball away? I expect his impact to the game to increase dramatically if/when we see the pressure from the D-Line that we've been expecting.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:41 PM   #24
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I'm excited for the guy, but the lack of contract doesn't really make any difference. He'll get paid eventually, and he obviously knows that.
Yeah but, how many other players have that attitude? Not many.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:21 PM   #25
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What's your expectations for Dorsey & T Jack?

This is the year they both better damn well do there jobs. I think they do fine in run defense but we suffer at getting to the QB with them. I'm hoping with Poe he helps collapse the pocket on the inside & T Jack & Dorsey have better routes to the QB, somebody is going be double teamed & taking up blocks for Hali to get there quicker.
They will do like they've been doing, and that will be fine. I really don't expect more stats from them even if Poe plays like a monster as I expect Poe or the linebackers will be getting the stats. I certainly won't complain if Jackson starts getting sacks like Neil Smith and Dorsey wrecks lines like he did in college, but I'm not expecting that at all.

That is their jobs and they've been doing it pretty well actually. Yeah they're overpaid but its not their fault that they were picked as high as they were.

I seem to be one of the few that doesn't want to see us lose either of them. Now, I do want to see them get much, much more reasonable contracts, but I think they are actually a big part of the defense's improvement.

As for Poe, because of Dorsey and Jackson, I expect Poe will actually look pretty good from the get go. The defense is setup very well for a nose tackle to thrive in, and because of those two I think its actually going to protect Poe in that he can make mistakes and learn and it not be devastating.

I'm not sure if its been by design or it was just how things happened, but both sides of the ball are setup for the key player for them to come in and be successful so if they're good that side of the ball should be great.

I actually think that DJ and Berry will possibly be the biggest benefactors. They might not have to look even more amazing and shrug off blockers to make a play, plus we might see them rush more if there's open lanes for them to attack.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:25 PM   #26
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Yeah but, how many other players have that attitude? Not many.
That's how I look at it too. Most guys coming into the NFL wouldn't do jack shit without a contract, even participate in OTA's.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:27 PM   #27
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I'm excited for the guy, but the lack of contract doesn't really make any difference. He'll get paid eventually, and he obviously knows that.
He will get paid eventually. Unless of course he shreds his knee in a career ending injury. Hell, even season ending would cost him money.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:28 PM   #28
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He will get paid eventually. Unless of course he shreds his knee in a career ending injury. Hell, even season ending would cost him money.
Aren't they pretty much locked in to the basic parameters of the contract? I honestly don't know, but I thought that was one of the features of the new CBA.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:42 PM   #29
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What's your expectations for Dorsey & T Jack?

This is the year they both better damn well do there jobs. I think they do fine in run defense but we suffer at getting to the QB with them. I'm hoping with Poe he helps collapse the pocket on the inside & T Jack & Dorsey have better routes to the QB, somebody is going be double teamed & taking up blocks for Hali to get there quicker.
They do their jobs already. Their jobs are to stuff the run and occupy blockers so that Hali, Houston, DJ, Berry etc.... can get to the QB

People will think differently about Dorsey and TJ if Poe pans out in the middle, and I think he'll rape right out of the gate.

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They do their jobs already. Their jobs are to stuff the run and occupy blockers so that Hali, Houston, DJ, Berry etc.... can get to the QB

People will think differently about Dorsey and TJ if Poe pans out in the middle, and I think he'll rape right out of the gate.
This is a misconception. Their PRIMARY job is to tie up blockers, not their only job, which they do a good job at. But they also need to get after the QB, which they fail miserably at.
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