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Old 06-20-2012, 10:59 AM  
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Should those who in our armed forces deserve entitlements?

Let me preface this by saying that I am one of the Patriotic members here on CP. Those of you who know me know how many threads I have posted honoring those who served/serve our country. But I was dissappointed today in our local Speedway gas station. There was 2 Marines driving a big Military SUV vehicle and they were walking into to Speedway in full attire. I was next to them and I thanked them for serving our country to which neither replied to me, I thought they didn't hear me. So I said it again, and the one guy said "Yeah we heard you the first time". At this point I left it alone. At this time another little convoy pulled up (I would assume from the same group), they were in full garb as well. They congregate around the slushy machine and they all get one (there was maybe 10 of them).

They come up to pay for the slushies and they ask where Chris is? Chris is the manager down there, I know because I buy a big gulp almost every day, and I know the people who work there. The cashier says "Im sorry Chris isn't in today" she then tells them their total and they start going nuts. The main guy says CHRIS NEVER MAKES US PAY!!! I AM NOT PAYING!! The cashier says that she's sorry, but she cannot give the slushies away or it will come out of her pay. The Marine then says "Do you know who the F we are? We are F-ing Marines, and we protect your God damn Country Bit**". At this time the other Marines in the group started chattering and saying how ridiculous this was that they wouldn't give them drinks. The cashier says "serve If I give it to you I would have to give it to everyone else, I am not the manager and I cannot give them to you, you can either pay for them or leave them here". The Marine then says F YOU!! The cashier then says if they don't leave they will call the cops. They leave, and they refuse to pay for their slushies. Everyone in the store has the David at the Dentist "Is this real life" look on their face.

I am all for being generous to those who protect us and I try to pick up the tab for them at fast food places, or pay for their big gulps, but I was shocked to see that behavior. The sad thing was there was at least 10 of them, and not one of them would say this is ridiculous.

My question, when those who volunteer to serve our Country demand things or expect entitlements, do you think they should be able to do that? Or should they not be able to do that?
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:04 AM   #2
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2 Vans in full dress attire sounds like a funeral detail. Contact the local Marine base and relate the date and location and they can probably track these D-bags down. I'm positive no Marine leader will accept that. Honorable service but the behavior you describe is intolerable.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:05 AM   #3
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Nope. They were being disrespectful. No one is entitled to anything from any civilian sector. If they offer it then that is on the business, but those Marines were nothing but disrespectful. This is coming from someone who has almost 10 years active duty in the Army and continues to serve.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:08 AM   #4
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I find it more annoying when cops do the same thing.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:09 AM   #5
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Let me preface this by saying that I am one of the Patriotic members here on CP. Those of you who know me know how many threads I have posted honoring those who served/serve our country.
oh yeah, youve never been in the Chiefs Planet packages for troops thread.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:09 AM   #6
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Call the base and report it. Do they have a First Shirt in the Marines? I was in the USAF so I don't know.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:09 AM   #7
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Just like the frickin fire dept acting like they own the meat section in Price Chopper every Sunday.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:10 AM   #8
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I appreciate the military very much, but I get really tired of the "military worship" that we have in our society these days. It's ridiculous. It's a volunteer force. It's not like they were drafted.

I suspect this is an unpopular view, but it's overboard and it's insincere. In most cases it's just marketing and has nothing to do with patriotism or veterans. It's companies trying to make themselves look good. Just look at these: http://www.bradsdeals.com/blog/2010/...ary-discounts/. And not a single one of them offers any discounts to market researchers, even though we're vital in ensuring that the best products and services are provided to the marketplace, which promotes and preserves our nation's capitalist economic system and produces additional consumer demand that generates tax dollars that buys all of those drones and howitzers.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:11 AM   #9
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:12 AM   #10
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Yeah, that's pretty disgraceful. I'd think stealing slushies probably violates the Code.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:13 AM   #12
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:13 AM   #13
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I'm positive no Marine leader will accept that. Honorable service but the behavior you describe is intolerable.
Agreed. I don't know any leader who would tolerate even the first guy questioning having to pay.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:13 AM   #14
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Nope. They were being disrespectful. No one is entitled to anything from any civilian sector. If they offer it then that is on the business, but those Marines were nothing but disrespectful. This is coming from someone who has almost 10 years active duty in the Army and continues to serve.
It only really matters when it given as a sign of respect and thanks for service gesture.

The Chiefs Planet packages for the troops is not about jerkey and peanuts. They know that, we know that. If it was jerkey and peanuts provided by the mess hall it wouldnt mean shit. Recieving a package from fellow Americans out of respect and thanks for their service. That has meaning.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:15 AM   #15
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I appreciate the military very much, but I get really tired of the "military worship" that we have in our society these days. It's ridiculous. It's a volunteer force. It's not like they were drafted.

I suspect this is an unpopular view, but it's overboard and it's insincere. In most cases it's just marketing and has nothing to do with patriotism or veterans. It's companies trying to make themselves look good. Just look at these: http://www.bradsdeals.com/blog/2010/...ary-discounts/. And not a single one of them offers any discounts to market researchers, even though we're vital in ensuring that the best products and services are provided to the marketplace, which promotes and preserves our nation's capitalist economic system and produces additional consumer demand that generates tax dollars that buys all of those drones and howitzers.
If not for the less than 1% of the country who volunteers to serve, how would the government fill it's ranks? 99% of the country had better things to do than serve. To compare the sacrifices of veterans to that of market researchers is weak at best. If a civilian company wants to extends benefits to veterans for whatever reason that is their right. If they do not, then that is also their right. For those who want the benefits of being a veteran, swing down to your local military recruiter and volunteer 3-6+ years of your life.
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