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Old 06-22-2012, 05:05 PM  
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***2012 NHL Offseason Thread***

Draft is tonight in Pittsburgh.

If Nail doesn't go to Edmonton, I will laugh.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:20 AM   #106
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:20 PM   #107
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NHL imposes lockout
Updated: September 16, 2012, 12:01 AM ET
By Katie Strang | ESPNNewYork.com

NEW YORK -- What has been written on the wall for months is now official. The NHL has imposed a league-wide lockout, the sport's second work stoppage in eight years.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman warned the players throughout this past year -- more aggressively during the labor negotiations during the past two months -- that the league intended to lock out the players if a new deal wasn't reached by midnight Saturday, when the collective bargaining agreement expired.

That deadline came and passed with little discussion and a lack of substantive talks in the waning 48-hour window to reach an agreement.

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The two sides remain far apart on the core economic issues of a new deal.

The NHL Players' Association said the union wanted to continue talks with the league Saturday, but was rebuffed.

"Today, we suggested that the parties meet in advance of the owners' self-imposed deadline of midnight tonight. Don Fehr, myself and several players on the negotiating committee were in the city and prepared to meet. The NHL said that it saw no purpose in having a formal meeting," NHLPA special counsel Steve Fehr said in a statement. "There have been and continue to be private, informal discussions between representatives of both sides."

Meanwhile, NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly, who had lunch with Fehr on Saturday but no formal discussions, said the league saw any further talks as futile given the significant gulf that separates the two sides.

"We spoke today and determined that there was no point in convening a formal bargaining session in light of the fact that neither side is in a position to move off of its last proposal," Daly said via email.

"I'm sure we will keep in touch in the coming days and schedule meetings to the extent they might be useful or appropriate. We are sorry for where we are. Not what we hoped or expected."

A lockout, the third in Bettman's tenure as commissioner, appeared imminent in the days leading up to the league's deadline. Bettman received a unanimous vote in support of imposing a lockout from the owners gathered at Thursday's board of governors meeting in New York.

The players launched their own display of solidarity: Almost 300 gathered at a Midtown Manhattan hotel down the road for meetings with NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr and the rest of the negotiating committee on Wednesday and Thursday.

League superstar Sidney Crosby spoke out on behalf of the players and expressed frustration in facing a work stoppage.

"We've shown we're willing to give, but they've got to be willing," Crosby said. "It seems like there's a pretty hard line there, and they're not willing to budge."

Crosby, like many other players, said he'd consider playing overseas in the event of a lockout. According to one agent, several of his players had already reached tentative agreements to play in Europe.

Whether the two sides keep an open line of communication or choose to go dark -- the league and union went months without talking in 2004 -- remains to be seen, but there is a stark philosophical divide on what a new deal should look like.

While the league wants to reduce the players' share of hockey-related revenue -- "We believe 57 percent of HRR is too much," Bettman said Thursday -- the union is not interested in any deal that would require the players to take any immediate, absolute further reduction in salary.

The sides last exchanged proposals Wednesday, but failed to forge common ground. The NHL offered the players a 47 percent of the share when fully implemented (their first two proposals offered 43 and 46 percent, respectively) while the players suggested a limited growth in share tied to revenue growth.

With time winding down and a large gap to bridge, both sides dug in and refused to budge.

The last lockout forced the NHL to forfeit the entire 2004-05 season.

Donald Fehr said Thursday that a lockout was not a necessity, but rather a choice the league made.

"If it comes to that, it's a choice," Fehr said. "It's not a requirement, it's not something anybody has to do. If that's the way it's going to be, then unfortunately, that's the way it's going to be."
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:56 PM   #108
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Old 09-16-2012, 12:03 AM   #109
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:17 AM   #110
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Stupid.
yup, not what the NHL needed again...
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:02 AM   #111
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:59 AM   #112
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Bettman has to go... I know how dumb it sounds to say he wanted a lockout, but how else did he think this would end? Hopefully they can get something done by the Winter Classic.

Well, college hockey starts in 4 weeks... *crickets*
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:06 AM   #113
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Bettman has to go... I know how dumb it sounds to say he wanted a lockout, but how else did he think this would end? Hopefully they can get something done by the Winter Classic.

Well, college hockey starts in 4 weeks... *crickets*
It's astounding how ****ing idiotic the owners are. It's ****ing asinine that the owners are doing this after they put themselves in this situation. Now they are trying to fix what they messed up.

**** Bettman.

**** the NHL.
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:08 AM   #114
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:54 AM   #115
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:56 AM   #116
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:59 AM   #117
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I'll still watch for sure, but I'll definitely not feel as bad for staying home to watch Avs games while he Pepsi Center is half empty this year. Screw 'em.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:05 PM   #118
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Not that anyone's surprised, but all preseason games are officially cancelled through the end of the month. I kind of want to go punch the owners in the nuts.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:24 PM   #119
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I can't stand to watch hockey on TV. Even with it being fast paced, it's still ****ing boring.

Going to live games though is a different story. I've been to many Blues games and I have lots of fun when I go. Same w/ NASCAR....going to the event live is can be fun as hell and a really good time, but I'd rather watch paint dry than to turn it on and watch it on TV.

Soccer on the other hand is ****ing stupid anyway you look at it.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:16 AM   #120
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http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/i...oming-to-espn3

All of the games are around 10am-noon et, but they should have replays.
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