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Old 07-10-2012, 04:26 PM  
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Anyone ever done a body cleanse?

I've been told by my trainer that I need to do a five to seven day cleanse. Anyone have any experience with them?
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:56 AM   #106
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:57 AM   #107
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I do a liver, gallbladder and parasite cleanse. Used to do it about every fifteen months but it's been years.
I got hundreds of gall stones out and fair amount of parasites which many people have. On the other hand a friend did these and got nothing out. Depends on the individual. My skin looked amazing afterwards and others noticed it too. Haven't done one in a long time but this thread is a good reminder.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:59 AM   #108
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The idea is that your body will rid itself of toxins that build up.
What toxins? Why and how would "toxins" build up at all? Everybody throws that term around, but nobody that believes it seems to know WTF it even means. There's no scientific proof that any "toxins" remain in your body that aren't processed naturally, that would need any additional cleansing.

In biological terms, your body naturally rids itself of anything it needs to throughout the digestive process. There is no allowance for "toxin" buildup. Your body isn't like a trash can where you regularly have to scrape the gunk off the sides after it cakes on over time. Your body just doesn't work that way.

The whole "cleansing of toxins" is nothing but homeopathic bullshit to take your money. And there's tons of proof of this...

http://life.seven-seas.com/detox-cle...#axzz20L0mhxP0

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/gu...-purging-myths

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4083

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Old 07-11-2012, 11:59 AM   #109
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Is there a single study that shows one's body excretes additional toxins while on a "cleansing" regime/diet?
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:04 PM   #110
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I do a liver, gallbladder and parasite cleanse. Used to do it about every fifteen months but it's been years.
I got hundreds of gall stones out and fair amount of parasites which many people have. On the other hand a friend did these and got nothing out. Depends on the individual. My skin looked amazing afterwards and others noticed it too. Haven't done one in a long time but this thread is a good reminder.
How many parasites did you count? Were they the little angry faced ones with octopus arms?
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:52 PM   #111
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What toxins? Why and how would "toxins" build up at all? Everybody throws that term around, but nobody that believes it seems to know WTF it even means. There's no scientific proof that any "toxins" remain in your body that aren't processed naturally, that would need any additional cleansing.

In biological terms, your body naturally rids itself of anything it needs to throughout the digestive process. There is no allowance for "toxin" buildup. Your body isn't like a trash can where you regularly have to scrape the gunk off the sides after it cakes on over time. Your body just doesn't work that way.

The whole "cleansing of toxins" is nothing but homeopathic bullshit to take your money. And there's tons of proof of this...

http://life.seven-seas.com/detox-cle...#axzz20L0mhxP0

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/gu...-purging-myths

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4083

I don't really care to argue the point. I'm no expert on this subject. I'll just tell you that I had a pretty good experience with the cleanse that my trainer recommended to me. Maybe I have a sensitivity to Gluten and/or dairy or there's some other explanation, but I had good results.

I've been reading "Clean" by Alejandro Junger. It's a good read if you're really interested in the subject. I know several people at my gym who've experienced excellent results after taking some of the suggestions made in that book.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:26 PM   #112
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Anecdotal evidence doesn't really mean much, TBH.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:26 PM   #113
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I don't really care to argue the point. I'm no expert on this subject. I'll just tell you that I had a pretty good experience with the cleanse that my trainer recommended to me. Maybe I have a sensitivity to Gluten and/or dairy or there's some other explanation, but I had good results.

I've been reading "Clean" by Alejandro Junger. It's a good read if you're really interested in the subject. I know several people at my gym who've experienced excellent results after taking some of the suggestions made in that book.
So you have no idea what it's supposed to treat, or how it's supposed to treat it, or why you would need to be treated for it. And despite all that, you're convinced that you had "Good results"? That doesn't make a lick of sense, if you don't know what it was supposed to do..

Doesn't your book explain anything? What has your reading revealed, since you're recommending it?

Here's a remark about your book, from a dietician association:

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Meanwhile, Gwyneth Paltrow's detox guru, Alejandro Junger, must be raking it in. His 21-day Clean detox programme involves having 'liquid meals' for breakfast and dinner and a light meal at lunch.

The kit he sells includes supplements and a manual and retails for 230 plus postage and packing. The problem is that there's very little scientific evidence to back up the claims made for detox diets, says Ursula Arens, a registered dietician and spokesperson for the British Dietetic Association.

'Dieticians are scientists, which means we like facts and definitions,' she says. 'The term detox doesn't mean anything. As a result, people can claim something detoxes you without having to prove it.

'These diets and supplements work by overinterpreting bits of data and putting them together to mislead consumers.' '


'It's ridiculous to think of your digestive system and your colon as a purification plant or a sewer that needs to have its pipes flushed through and a holiday,' says Ursula Arens.

'The body actually has a massive overcapacity to dispose of toxins. 'As for the need to cleanse the colon, it is constantly cleansing itself by renewing the mucus layer that protects the colon wall from being exposed to toxins. So, flushing pints of water through it with things like colonic irrigation is one of the more damaging things you can do to it.'
Does it bother you that lots of actual doctors and scientists say it's complete BS?
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:49 PM   #114
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Anecdotal evidence doesn't really mean much, TBH.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:02 PM   #115
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So you have no idea what it's supposed to treat, or how it's supposed to treat it, or why you would need to be treated for it. And despite all that, you're convinced that you had "Good results"? That doesn't make a lick of sense, if you don't know what it was supposed to do..

Doesn't your book explain anything? What has your reading revealed, since you're recommending it?



Does it bother you that lots of actual doctors and scientists say it's complete BS?
Well, I don't think I said any of that. I certainly didn't mean to. I said I had a good experience with the cleanse that my trainer recommended. The results were exactly what he said they'd be. As I also said, that could have more to do with me having a sensitivity to dairy or gluten than the "cleansing of toxins from my body." This is why, as Silock said, anecdotal evidence doesn't really mean much.

I haven't done any of the cleanses in the book. In fact, I'm only halfway through it. I was merely recommending it as an interesting read rather than referring to it as gospel. From your earlier post, I got the impression that you were interested in the subject & wanted to get an idea what the fuss was about. That's why I'm reading it. I think it's an interesting theory.

Finally, no, it doesn't bother me that scientists think it's a load of BS. I think a lot of it is a load of BS.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:42 PM   #116
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Well, I don't think I said any of that. I certainly didn't mean to. I said I had a good experience with the cleanse that my trainer recommended. The results were exactly what he said they'd be. As I also said, that could have more to do with me having a sensitivity to dairy or gluten than the "cleansing of toxins from my body." This is why, as Silock said, anecdotal evidence doesn't really mean much.

I haven't done any of the cleanses in the book. In fact, I'm only halfway through it. I was merely recommending it as an interesting read rather than referring to it as gospel. From your earlier post, I got the impression that you were interested in the subject & wanted to get an idea what the fuss was about. That's why I'm reading it. I think it's an interesting theory.

Finally, no, it doesn't bother me that scientists think it's a load of BS. I think a lot of it is a load of BS.
Fascinating. Thanks for the reply.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:53 PM   #117
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Well, we know KC Fish won't be doing any cleanses.
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I don't get how everybody keeps throwing around the term "Clean you out"... Clean what out? Your gastrointestinal system is actually incredibly efficient. It's not like some old pipe plumbing system that gets lime and rust buildup. Everything you swallow gets digested and broken down and passes completely through your body, it doesn't get left behind to buildup and need cleaning. If that actually were the case, some really bad shit would happen. But you have a bacterial film lining the inside of your guts that protects your guts and prevents anything from "Sticking", so to speak.

As it is, your liver and kidneys don't need any help. And it's foolish to think you could do so better than your body. None of the cleansing crap you buy is going to do better than your own body. It will just purge your body, which does more harm than good.

Your internals aren't "Dirty", and don't need regular "Cleansing". That's an absurd idea created by people trying to sell you shit by making you feel guilty. It's all bunk.
That's an interesting theory you've got there. The nearly one million Americans who had a heart attack last year will be relieved to learn that they don't have plaque in their arteries.

Cholesteral isn't a concern, and I won't even bother brushing my teeth anymore. The body cleans it's own insides so well that there is simply no need to intervene.
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That's an interesting theory you've got there. The nearly one million Americans who had a heart attack last year will be relieved to learn that they don't have plaque in their arteries.

Cholesteral isn't a concern, and I won't even bother brushing my teeth anymore. The body cleans it's own insides so well that there is simply no need to intervene.
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