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Old 07-20-2012, 09:50 AM  
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Gun Control

We have all heard about what happened in Aurora, Co, and I think that Gun Control is going to be a huge topic in the following months.


What measures need to be taken? Do you have any ideas that will help prevent this kind of thing from happening again as it pertains to guns?
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:32 PM   #571
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I'm doing it again aren't I, falling for a trolling. I really have to get better at this.
Whenever I try to read your posts your signatur pic always make me lose track of where I am in your post. That gif makes my ADD make it impossible for me to gain any subtance from your posts lol.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:36 PM   #572
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Whenever I try to read your posts your signatur pic always make me lose track of where I am in your post. That gif makes my ADD make it impossible for me to gain any subtance from your posts lol.
TBH, i would rather be distracted by it than argue over gun control anyways. So from my point of view, you're getting the better end of the deal.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:36 PM   #573
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If we are going to implement gun control to avoid murders can I quit paying my taxes to avoid drone killings?
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:37 PM   #574
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TBH, i would rather be distracted by it than argue over gun control anyways. So from my point of view, you're getting the better end of the deal.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:40 PM   #575
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It is funny listening to the cars/box cutters rants. Twitter/Facebook is going to end this shit once and for all. The people aren't going to stand for no action to be taken.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:55 PM   #576
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It is funny listening to the cars/box cutters rants. Twitter/Facebook is going to end this shit once and for all. The people aren't going to stand for no action to be taken.
If they get a million "Likes", then the government is required to take action!
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:00 PM   #577
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It is funny listening to the cars/box cutters rants. Twitter/Facebook is going to end this shit once and for all. The people aren't going to stand for no action to be taken.
Should we look at school security? Or shold we grab this tragedy, embrace it, and celebrate a new wave of gun control madness?
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:05 PM   #578
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Should we look at school security? Or shold we grab this tragedy, embrace it, and celebrate a new wave of gun control madness?
We should use the wave of momentum created by this social media frenzy to get laws passed that will piss of Dumb white redneck folk in middle America. That way they can go **** themselves in the bathroom of Lamberts and cry into their thrown roll.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:07 PM   #579
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How many people were killed by cars and trucks last year? They should be banned also~
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:10 PM   #580
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We should use the wave of momentum created by this social media frenzy to get laws passed that will piss of Dumb white redneck folk in middle America. That way they can go **** themselves in the bathroom of Lamberts and cry into their thrown roll.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:11 PM   #581
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Yet people continue to die you heartless bastard~
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:24 PM   #582
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Lots of accidental deaths from cars, trucks, and other forms of transportation. It's tragic, but they're accidents.

These shootings aren't accidents, and the murders aren't ramming into people with cars.

A car is a tool, a gun is a tool. A car gets you from one place to another, a gun shoots things.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:37 PM   #583
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It is funny listening to the cars/box cutters rants. Twitter/Facebook is going to end this shit once and for all. The people aren't going to stand for no action to be taken.
You are in an echo chamber.

Not a damned thing is going to be done. 47% of people have a gun at home or their property.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:43 PM   #584
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Lots of accidental deaths from cars, trucks, and other forms of transportation. It's tragic, but they're accidents.

These shootings aren't accidents, and the murders aren't ramming into people with cars.

A car is a tool, a gun is a tool. A car gets you from one place to another, a gun shoots things.
Well one can argue DUIs aren't accidents either, and the people that kill others due to DUI are often charged with murder(obviously depending upon the exact circumstances). Yet the number of people don't propose the banning of all cars and alcohol as a way to reduce DUI deaths. Would it likely reduce the number of deaths? Probably, but it's also a radically overreaching step. The vast majority of people drive safely and the vast majority of people are also free to drink safely(although combing the two is bad).

The issue with firearms is not that dissimilar. The vast majority of firearms are used entirely safely without harming or effecting another soul. However people propose laws that would prohibit them and effectively turn millions of their fellows americans into felons.

The big difference is, you probably drink or you probably drive, so losing either activity matters to you. But you don't shot or own firearms, so taking that from someone else costs you nothing. This is a problem that we have as a society. We are ok with discriminating against things we don't like because they don't effect us.

There are times to make appropriate laws, but when we do that we need uniform standards for harm and then prohibit or restrict ALL things that meet that standard. It has to be applied fairly we can't just restrict the things we don't like. That's how we know if the standard is overly harsh. Applying harsh standards to things we don't like but letting things we do like get a free pass is simply just discrimination.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:43 PM   #585
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By the way, to you gun control folks out there, what do you THINK can be done?

An assault weapons ban? Otherwise known as the "ugly gun ban"? The AWB is a stupid, useless law. It is meant as a fig leaf to allow politicians to PRETEND they actually did something when they did not. The AWB regulates cosmetic features which have almost no impact on the capability of the gun. Some guns which "look scary" and are prized by collectors are not more lethal than a simple .45

"high capacity magazines"? Another stupid law. Its not hard at all to carry several and reload. It takes a second or two, and no one is going to opportunistically spring forth from cover to tackle someone during those couple moments.

Those laws only serve to make people feel better about having done something. They do nothing. If you want to do something about gun violence, NOTHING SHORT of a complete ban on all handguns will do anything, and that is not going to happen, nor should it.
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