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Old 07-20-2012, 09:50 AM  
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Gun Control

We have all heard about what happened in Aurora, Co, and I think that Gun Control is going to be a huge topic in the following months.


What measures need to be taken? Do you have any ideas that will help prevent this kind of thing from happening again as it pertains to guns?
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:34 PM   #871
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Thanks.


I was raised around guns, not those type of guns, but hunting rifles and shotguns.


I guess were I get into having a problem isn't necessarily fire rate, but clip size and reloading rate.

I don't really see the point of having a firearm like that, but I will admit I'm not as familiar with them so I'm coming here to possibly be informed.
Don't get sucked into that old thought pattern, any gun will kill you, some look meaner than others but they all are basically the same.

If they only made 2 round magazines there would be people out there who could shoot 20 bullets faster than people with 10 round mags .
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:38 PM   #872
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But see, we are not at a constant state of war with an enemy state. If our teachers all had to be armed I'd think something is really wrong in America, let's find a way to end that need.
Not all, some...

Just like not all passengers on an airline, maybe a couple


And yes when anyone attacks our children we are at war, a domestic war and it could have been anything they got attacked with not only guns.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:40 PM   #873
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And yes when anyone attacks our children we are at war, a domestic war and it could have been anything they got attacked with not only guns.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:41 PM   #874
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Not all, some...

Just like not all passengers on an airline, maybe a couple


And yes when anyone attacks our children we are at war, a domestic war and it could have been anything they got attacked with not only guns.
Yeah it could have been, but they were attacked by guns.

I realize taking away all guns, isn't an option. Nor should it be.

But I keep struggling with thoughts that we might have to begin to arm teachers or have police officers lock down schools, so we can keep our "rights".
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:43 PM   #875
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And yes when anyone attacks our children we are at war, a domestic war and it could have been anything they got attacked with not only guns.
You love saying things and posting pictures that don't actually mean shit.

Of course I don't know why I would think more would come from someone that can't recognize fake news when he sees it.
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Yeah it could have been, but they were attacked by guns.

I realize taking away all guns, isn't an option. Nor should it be.

But I keep struggling with thoughts that we might have to begin to arm teachers or have police officers lock down schools, so we can keep our "rights".

How about 12 foot fences with razorwire? 911 changed the mentality of this country and it's only a matter of time before another slips thru the cracks and performs a terrorist attack...
It's time for America to wake the **** up
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You love saying things and posting pictures that don't actually mean shit.

Of course I don't know why I would think more would come from someone that can't recognize fake news when he sees it.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:45 PM   #878
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How about 12 foot fences with razorwire? 911 changed the mentality of this country and it's only a matter of time before another slips thru the cracks and performs a terrorist attack...
It's time for America to wake the **** up
What is going on? This thread has slipped from sensible discussion and people calling out Direckshun for his vague circular reasoning to whatever this madness is.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:47 PM   #879
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How about 12 foot fences with razorwire? 911 changed the mentality of this country and it's only a matter of time before another slips thru the cracks and performs a terrorist attack...
It's time for America to wake the **** up
Explain?
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:48 PM   #880
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Explain?

You ever hear those commercials for ready.gov on the radio?
They are warning you on those if you pay attention.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:52 PM   #881
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New to this thread.


Just curious, as I'm sure some on here own them, but what is the reason to have a weapon that can put out projectiles at that rate of fire?
At what rate of fire?

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It fires no faster than any other semi auto.... all legal guns 1 trigger pull = 1 shot
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I didn't phrase that very well, meant to say Semi Automatic.

I realize it's 1 trigger pull, 1 shot. But with that load on you could have 30 consecutive trigger pulls without reloading, correct?
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:03 PM   #883
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Thanks again.


Where I'm hung up is, again, the semi automatic feature.


And like that says, its the person who's hands the gun is in.

Which, is my biggest complaint. We can't change people, so we have to do a better job making sure these don't get in the wrong hands.
When I was still young enough to consider getting up at the butt crack of dawn to freeze my ass off in a tree stand fun I did it with a mildly modified SKS in my hands.
I used my SKS for hunting because I get consistent accuracy out of it, it's cheap to buy and shoot, I'm not afraid of scratching it up dragging it through the south east Kansas hedge row country, and could drop it in the mud jumping a ditch chamber a round and have confidence it would accurately fire. Plus since a lot of the recoil is taken up by the semi-automatic action after the first shot I can get right back on target for another if needed.
I know a lot of coyote hunters that use AR's for similar reasons, accept the whole dropping in the mud thing, AR's don't get along with dirt at all.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:05 PM   #884
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I didn't phrase that very well, meant to say Semi Automatic.

I realize it's 1 trigger pull, 1 shot. But with that load on you could have 30 consecutive trigger pulls without reloading, correct?
Depends on magazine capacity.
If you have a 30 round clip then yes you can have 30 bullets at your disposal.
Those high capacity magazines also have a tendency to jam on you. Takes a long spring with a high spring rate, a lot of pressure, to shove that many bullets out.
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When I was still young enough to consider getting up at the butt crack of dawn to freeze my ass off in a tree stand fun I did it with a mildly modified SKS in my hands.
I used my SKS for hunting because I get consistent accuracy out of it, it's cheap to buy and shoot, I'm not afraid of scratching it up dragging it through the south east Kansas hedge row country, and could drop it in the mud jumping a ditch chamber a round and have confidence it would accurately fire. Plus since a lot of the recoil is taken up by the semi-automatic action after the first shot I can get right back on target for another if needed.
I know a lot of coyote hunters that use AR's for similar reasons, accept the whole dropping in the mud thing, AR's don't get along with dirt at all.
Ok.

I know many who use them for similar purposes.

I just don't see a use for AR's, or for that matter, semi automatic weapons in the hands of the general public, without a fairly rigorous training and background information.

I'm all for keeping the rights this country were built on, as I'm sure you are. And if I'm serious about keeping or obtaining these weapons, these things shouldn't be a problem.
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