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Old 07-20-2012, 09:50 AM  
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Gun Control

We have all heard about what happened in Aurora, Co, and I think that Gun Control is going to be a huge topic in the following months.


What measures need to be taken? Do you have any ideas that will help prevent this kind of thing from happening again as it pertains to guns?
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:58 AM   #1006
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:19 AM   #1007
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Old 12-16-2012, 04:18 AM   #1008
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Old 12-16-2012, 04:56 AM   #1009
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Although, when some kid shoots up his school, it isn't accidental.
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:41 AM   #1010
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Although, when some kid shoots up his school, it isn't accidental.

Yea but Aussie you can never predict what a madman is going to do and if someone is purely evil they will find a way to kill. He could have just as easily rented a truck and plowed thru the crowd when it was time for school to let out as easily as picked up a gun... Probably easier.
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:31 AM   #1011
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I hate the whole "gun-free zone" BS. If you're a "gun-free" area then you should be liable for and ready to protect me since you are depriving me of my ability to do so. All this does is advertise that if you want to, you have 3-4 minutes of time to do whatever it is you wish to do until help arrives. If multiple adults had CCW in that school maybe, just maybe someone could have stopped this lunatic before he killed as any as he did. Statistically it has proven out for decades that havng law-abiding citizens able to legally carry has dropped violent crime rates. That's why LA, Chicago, DC and NYC have some of the highest crime rates in the country, they are some of the most restrictive on guns and the criminals know it.
This country needs to spend its energy trying to figure out where the breakdown in mental health is in these lunatics, not further restricting the law-abiding people that aren't the problem. The kid broke 10's if not 100's of laws in doing what he did, adding 1 or 2 more isn't going to do anything except let the people who think with emotion instead of logic say "we've done something".
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:33 AM   #1012
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I hate the whole "gun-free zone" BS. If you're a "gun-free" area then you should be liable for and ready to protect me since you are depriving me of my ability to do so. All this does is advertise that if you want to, you have 3-4 minutes of time to do whatever it is you wish to do until help arrives. If multiple adults had CCW in that school maybe, just maybe someone could have stopped this lunatic before he killed as any as he did. Statistically it has proven out for decades that havng law-abiding citizens able to leagally carry has dropped violent crime rates. That's why LA, Chicago, DC and NYC have some of the hghest crime rates in the country, they are some of the most restrictive on guns and the criminals know it.
Gun Free Zones are nothing more than another word for Shooting Gallery to a madman ...

i agree 100%
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:34 AM   #1013
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i agree 100%
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:44 AM   #1014
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Great, now we're reliving Columbine on the Today show, giving the two nuts that did that some more fame that they wanted.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:01 AM   #1015
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Although, when some kid shoots up his school, it isn't accidental.
Would you be happier if they'd all died in a bus crash?
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Again these are not only ancient studies other studies have come out in later years that report opposite or statistically insignificant results. Frankly whenever you read a paper and they say these results generate a an X times improvement the first thing you should always do is look at the original number. If the probability of suicide or homicide was 1 in 500,000 and they had a 5X increase to 1 in 100,000 does that even matter? The event is still so remote that it's questionable if it's statistically significant. I write and review academic papers and the X times improvement is always a major red flag for me because it's used by less scrupulous writers to make their work look more significant than it is. If the event was already very unlikely the fact that you have an X times increase in probability may still mean it's irrelevant.
Debating the validity of one study over another is a waste of time, because I think you already know what conclusion you want to make and will find whatever reason you can to get there, as do I probably. Studying or making laws against people with mental health issues is deflecting from the real issue.

I think the gun culture in this country is a big problem. You can pray and hug your kids every time something like this happens, but it will do nothing to fix it. The Dunblance massacre in Scotland caused strict gun control laws across Great Britian and I hope this massacre causes the same thing on a Federal level, not state by state.

Obviously you will never stop every crazy person from causing harm, like the guy in China the other day, but imagine if he was allowed to have a gun though and the damage he would have done. The murders at the Sikh temple in Wisconsin wasn't done by a crazy person, just some stupid white trash with a gun in his hand and misplaced illogical hate. The person that fired several rounds in a mall in California yesterday is just a moron. Unfortunately all morons and stupid white trash and everyone else are allowed to have as many guns as they want, despite not needing them for any real purpose. I hope that changes with far stricter regulations.
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@BetsyMTP: BREAKING on #MTP: Dianne Feinstein says she will intro Assault Weapons ban on first day of the new Congress.

So it begins.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:29 AM   #1018
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@BetsyMTP: BREAKING on #MTP: Dianne Feinstein says she will intro Assault Weapons ban on first day of the new Congress.

So it begins.
Begins? This Feinswine **** is the biggest piece of shit in Congress and has been pushing this for years. I'll bet she'll still want her bodyguards to carry guns, though, since her life is important, but not those of the little people.

But she's counting on your support and other like-minded fools.

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Debating the validity of one study over another is a waste of time, because I think you already know what conclusion you want to make and will find whatever reason you can to get there, as do I probably. Studying or making laws against people with mental health issues is deflecting from the real issue.

I think the gun culture in this country is a big problem. You can pray and hug your kids every time something like this happens, but it will do nothing to fix it. The Dunblance massacre in Scotland caused strict gun control laws across Great Britian and I hope this massacre causes the same thing on a Federal level, not state by state.

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Old 12-16-2012, 08:31 AM   #1020
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Saw this tweet they just talked about on MTP. I think this was pretty thought provoking

One person tries to put a bomb in their shoe and now millions of people everyday have to take their shoes off to fly while we have had 31 separate gun mass killings since Columbine and no change
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