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Old 07-20-2012, 09:50 AM  
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Gun Control

We have all heard about what happened in Aurora, Co, and I think that Gun Control is going to be a huge topic in the following months.


What measures need to be taken? Do you have any ideas that will help prevent this kind of thing from happening again as it pertains to guns?
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:29 AM   #1096
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How is this going to stop people want to kill in the manor we saw in Connecticut and Colorado, etc?
It won't but it's a start. As long as anyone can get a gun whenever they want, nothing will ever stop it. But we can pray, which will do nothing. We can give more people guns, which will do nothing. So if everything remains the same, we can just accept it, which I won't.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:29 AM   #1097
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How is this going to stop people want to kill in the manor we saw in Connecticut and Colorado, etc?
Meanwhile the City of Aurora, Colorado would have arrested anyone who stopped the Batman Massacre with a concealed weapon.

Plus there's some fishy links by the therapist treating the Batman shooter linking back to the govt. Insidious plot by Obama regime for his gun control agenda? Things that make you go hmmm.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:30 AM   #1098
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It won't but it's a start. As long as anyone can get a gun whenever they want, nothing will ever stop it. But we can pray, which will do nothing. We can give more people guns, which will do nothing. So if everything remains the same, we can just accept it, which I won't.
You realize that Gabby, the congress woman from AZ was saved, and probably others because someone there did have a gun?
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:31 AM   #1099
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It won't but it's a start. As long as anyone can get a gun whenever they want, nothing will ever stop it. But we can pray, which will do nothing. We can give more people guns, which will do nothing. So if everything remains the same, we can just accept it, which I won't.
What are the tens of thousands of women who are being stalked by ex husbands going to do? 10-50 B'S ? How about a woman who is trying to defend herself from sexual assault?
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:34 AM   #1100
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What are the tens of thousands of women who are being stalked by ex husbands going to do? 10-50 B'S ? How about a woman who is trying to defend herself from sexual assault?
I've gotten out from some assaults in the city when in college by thinking my way out.
A gun would not have saved me in either case due to how it went down. One was sheer luck though. I did try to kill to save some friends by using my car as a weapon. If I had a gun for that one, they would have been spared of some injuries sooner.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:36 AM   #1101
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Do you think because we have freedom of speech in the bill of rights, that allows you to say or write whatever you want?
You can, however if what you say causes harm ("fire" in a theater) or (libel/slander), you can be punished for those actions.
Same thing with guns, if you use one wrong you get punished. Unless your fine with licenses to speak, waiting periods for publishing/talking, restrictions on how many words you can use at 1 time, mental evaluations before being able to speak, etc.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:38 AM   #1102
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Legal gun owners wouldn't be bothered?

Who do you think would be paying for your proposed regulations and updating of the background database?

You're right that crazy people willing to commit a massacre aren't going to be deterred by anything. But my reasoning doesn't lead to suggesting we have no laws at all. I'm saying we shouldn't have ineffective laws that do nothing except quell the irrational fears of the populace.
Keeping the federal database up to date is a nominal fee, maybe attach it to the sale of a firearm via a tax. It would be much cheaper than putting armed school guards in every school\college in America.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:38 AM   #1103
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You can, however if what you say causes harm ("fire" in a theater) or (libel/slander), you can be punished for those actions.
Same thing with guns, if you use one wrong you get punished. Unless your fine with licenses to speak, waiting periods for publishing/talking, restrictions on how many words you can use at 1 time, mental evaluations before being able to speak, etc.
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But you have to do those things first before you get penalized. You can't punish the innocent, law abiding gun owners in a pre-crime or punish them because of the few who did something wrong.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:42 AM   #1104
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You realize that Gabby, the congress woman from AZ was saved, and probably others because someone there did have a gun?
6 people died and 13 were wounded because he had a gun.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:44 AM   #1105
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You realize that Gabby, the congress woman from AZ was saved, and probably others because someone there did have a gun?
Actually he was stopped by unarmed people.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:44 AM   #1106
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Keeping the federal database up to date is a nominal fee, maybe attach it to the sale of a firearm via a tax. It would be much cheaper than putting armed school guards in every school\college in America.
I've just noticed that when most non gun owners submit their suggestions for reasonable and effective gun regulation, they overwhelmingly expect the gun owners to pay for the expenses it would require to implement.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:45 AM   #1107
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You say that a lot, and it seems like a strong fear you have that someone is coming for you guns.
Hardly, my firearms are protected by me I don't fear losing them, I will ensure their safety in my lifetime.
I'm advocating on my children's behalf and their children, I'm advocating on behalf of the Americans that don't have a say in the matter right now.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:48 AM   #1108
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Hardly, my firearms are protected by me I don't fear losing them, I will ensure their safety in my lifetime.
I'm advocating on my children's behalf and their children, I'm advocating on behalf of the Americans that don't have a say in the matter right now.
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That's fine, you have every right to protect yourself, and your family.

What Americans don't have a say right now?
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:51 AM   #1109
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That's fine, you have every right to protect yourself, and your family.

What Americans don't have a say right now?
Any American that is not of age to vote or has not been born yet. Should they be subjected to tyranny in their lives because of a bunch of pussies that fear inanimate objects in ours?
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:52 AM   #1110
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I've just noticed that when most non gun owners submit their suggestions for reasonable and effective gun regulation, they overwhelmingly expect the gun owners to pay for the expenses it would require to implement.
I am gun owner and I have no problems paying some kind of tax if I were to purchase a new gun. It is the same thing as licensing your car which then goes for paying for road maintenance.
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