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Old 08-23-2012, 08:43 PM  
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Rock Center with Brian Williams Doing a Hatchet Job on Mormonism...

How ****ing transparent can the mainstream media be? They constantly run interference for Hussein, and savage anyone who dares speak against their anointed one...

I wonder when NBC or CBS or ABC will do an expose on Reverend Wright's anti-American diatribes in prime time?
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:03 PM   #16
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Do you get spooked by black liberation theology?
I'm talking about how a lot of people feel.

A ton of people were spooked by the Reverend Wright bullshit.

And guess what the no-yet-President did? He had a 45 minute speech on that issue alone. Obama has also written extensively about his faith, and even uses it now to justify certain policies he's made.

Romney votes present.

A candidate's faith is a relevant point of discussion. When Presidents are telling them God told them to invade this country, or the Bible teaches us about universal healthcare, etc... It's incredibly relevant.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:04 PM   #17
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Huckabee and Romney split the conservative base; that's how scarface the moderate got the nomination.
Uh, what?

Huckabee outlasted Romney in the primaries and slaughtered him in the states with the higher evangelical turnout.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:06 PM   #18
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I'm talking about how a lot of people feel.

A ton of people were spooked by the Reverend Wright bullshit.

And guess what the no-yet-President did? He had a 45 minute speech on that issue alone. Obama has written extensively about his faith, and even uses it now to justify certain policies he's made.

A candidate's faith is a relevant point of discussion.
I don't disagree. I also don't remember Dateline NBC or 60 minutes doing an hour long special on black liberation theology.

I think most people don't understand what mormons believe, but I think most people see them as upstanding and moral people.

I don't see how this is all that much different than JFK becoming the first Catholic elected...
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:11 PM   #19
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I don't disagree. I also don't remember Dateline NBC or 60 minutes doing an hour long special on black liberation theology.
Do you not remember the wall-to-wall coverage Reverend Wright received? Do you not remember the special press events Wright himself held?

To pretend like that was swept under the rug is a crazy stretch on your behalf.

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I think most people don't understand what mormons believe, but I think most people see them as upstanding and moral people.

I don't see how this is all that much different than JFK becoming the first Catholic elected...
Maybe they do think of them as moral, but that doesn't mean they're electable. Romney was getting hammered in his own party's primaries in 2008 for his religion.

I don't think anybody was claiming he was a bad guy. Romney is, at least in his personal life, a good, family guy. They were just straight up spooked by his beliefs.

And it's hilarious you brought up JFK, considering he had to overcome people's fears of Catholicism like Romney would theoretically have to overcome fears of Mormonism.

What did JFK do to quell people's fears? He spoke openly and repeatedly about his faith and assure people he wouldn't be taking orders from the Pope.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:14 PM   #20
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How ****ing transparent can the mainstream media be? They constantly run interference for Hussein, and savage anyone who dares speak against their anointed one...

I wonder when NBC or CBS or ABC will do an expose on Reverend Wright's anti-American diatribes in prime time?
Thanks for all of the detail about the report. Sounds like a real hit job.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:17 PM   #21
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You make Mormonism sound like a disease.

I'm not really sure why they should have to explain it unless it's being attacked. So then the question is why is it being attacked?
Maybe people might be curious about the religious beliefs of the potential next president?
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:29 PM   #22
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What is there to say about it? It isn't scientology.
So they baptize the dead, wear magic underwear to protect them from evil and say God is dude living on the planet Kolob. Nothing to see here.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:48 PM   #23
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On July 20, 2010, the political commentary website The Daily Caller reported that a group of reporters and columnists for major periodicals who were a part of the JournoList listserv had secretly worked together to devise a strategy to minimize the damage to the Barack Obama campaign by depicting as racists those political or media figures who attempted to make Wright an issue in the campaign. This was explicitly discussed as a strategy to keep the right from maintaining control of the country.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:50 PM   #24
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Thanks for all of the detail about the report. Sounds like a real hit job.
I'm going to stay up late tonight and get that transcript done for you, Jensen...I promise.
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:17 AM   #25
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Do you not remember the wall-to-wall coverage Reverend Wright received? Do you not remember the special press events Wright himself held?
what wall to wall coverage? I remember Fox covering it and the other networks calling it a non issue. It was hardly wall to wall coverage.
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Old 08-24-2012, 04:51 AM   #26
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It's pretty clear the GOP and Romney himself just have absolutely no idea how to address Mormonism. How to explain it, how to describe it.
Why should he? Is there a religious test now for office now?

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The only angle they can really take on it is that the Librul Media is attacking it.
The ones that claim religion should play no role in politics. So it's entirely relevant. It's because it suits their purpose now. So it's okay.

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If a productive conversation about Mormonism comes out of this, or really any conversation about Mormonism comes out of this at all, I'll be deathly surprised.
Look, no one can stop anyone from voting for someone because they don't like another's religion but there need not be a productive conversation about Mormonism for an election. The exception is only when it may cross over into public policy. I don't see this with Mitt. If anything it has more to do with some Christians wanting to bring Armageddon on.
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Old 08-24-2012, 04:56 AM   #27
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Do you not remember the wall-to-wall coverage Reverend Wright received? Do you not remember the special press events Wright himself held?

To pretend like that was swept under the rug is a crazy stretch on your behalf.
Now this is when it should be of political concern, because Wright was saying political things about America. And liberation theology is political.


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Maybe they do think of them as moral, but that doesn't mean they're electable. Romney was getting hammered in his own party's primaries in 2008 for his religion.
That's not having a discussion about the Mormon religion though. That's just people not liking him for office for his religion.

As for JFK, the fear by protestants drove that. Even Jefferson got alarmed about the Catholics in Maryland.
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Old 08-24-2012, 06:28 AM   #28
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what wall to wall coverage? I remember Fox covering it and the other networks calling it a non issue. It was hardly wall to wall coverage.
All the networks talked about it allll the tiiiime.

You guys are so silly.

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Wright Dominated News Coverage
May 6, 2008

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Now it’s been quantified. If you thought the news media had been giving lopsided coverage to the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., Senator Barack Obama’s former pastor, you would be correct.

Mr. Wright even got more exposure than Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Mr. Wright dominated 42 percent of political stories last week, from April 28 to May 4, according to a survey by the Project for Excellence in Journalism, which uses empirical methods to analyze news coverage.

The retired pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago returned to the forefront of the news after making a series of public appearances during the last week in April, causing more controversy with renewed affirmation of remarks he had made in the past.

According to the survey, Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama’s rival, was the central figure in 41 percent of the articles. The study regularly examines 48 news sources (15 cable television programs, 13 daily newspapers, 8 radio programs, 7 network television programs and 5 Web sites).

Mr. Wright also completely overshadowed the next-most covered campaign issue, which was the gas tax — the central topic in just 7 percent of political stories.

The dominance of Mr. Wright swelled the overall coverage of Mr. Obama, who denounced the pastor last week, to 69 percent of all political stories.

This focus left Senator John McCain, the presumed Republican nominee, on the sidelines, with a significant presence in just 14 percent of stories.

(It may seem as if Bill Clinton was also a big topic, but he accounted for only 2.2 percent of the coverage.)

This is the second, though nonconsecutive, week in which Mr. Wright drew the lion’s share of media attention, receiving extraordinary play over an unusually lengthy period for something that started out as a side issue.

Obama supporters contend that the coverage has been self-perpetuating, particularly on cable television, where Mr. Wright’s words are replayed in an endless loop and then interpreted by pundits as a major setback to Mr. Obama. Indeed, his polling numbers have fallen since Mr. Wright gained notoriety in mid-March, when Mr. Obama moved to quell concern about his inflammatory statements and delivered a major speech on race, on March 18.

In the most recent New York Times/CBS News poll, a majority of voters said the furor over the relationship between the two had not affected their opinion of Mr. Obama, but a substantial number said it could influence voters in the fall.

During the week of March 17 to 23, the Wright-Obama story line accounted for 37 percent of the campaign stories, the survey said. That made Mr. Obama the central figure in 72 percent of political stories that week, close to the highest level of coverage of any figure during the campaign.

The only state to vote since the emergence of Mr. Wright was Pennsylvania, which was perceived as a stronghold for Mrs. Clinton anyway. She won by more than nine percentage points, but exit polls indicated weakness for Mr. Obama among white, working-class voters. The votes today in Indiana and North Carolina will be the first since Mr. Wright reignited coverage last week with a string of interviews that caused Mr. Obama to break with him entirely.

Stories last week focused on the political damage Mr. Wright had caused for Mr. Obama. Then, as often happens with such media obsessions, the narrative circled back to focus on the media itself and whether it had gone overboard.

Kenneth F. Bunting, associate publisher of The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, wrote last week, “Barack Obama’s forceful denunciation and disavowal of his former pastor doesn’t change the fact that it is an irrelevant distraction entirely created by cable television pundits using out-of-context and skewed sound bites.”

Donna Brazile, a Democratic strategist, told CNN that voters “think that Reverend Wright has been used as an ax to destroy or diminish Senator Obama and to divide people unnecessarily, in this country, at a time when we are at war and we’re trying to get our economy back on track.”

Over all, news of the campaign accounted for 38 percent of all news coverage last week, according to the survey. The second most-covered story was the economy, at 10 percent.
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Lots of hypocrisy in this thread. From BOTH sides. It's almost like we're just resolved to the brainwashing. Now we'll just fight over who gets more opportunity to do the washing, rather than getting washed.
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