Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > D.C.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-26-2012, 09:56 PM  
KILLER_CLOWN KILLER_CLOWN is offline
Be HEALED!!!!!!!
 
KILLER_CLOWN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fascist State
Casino cash: $11142616
Creation Seminar 1 - Kent Hovind - Age of the Earth

Posts: 24,192
KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 10:52 PM   #301
mr. tegu mr. tegu is offline
Hopeful for playoffs
 
mr. tegu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2012
Casino cash: $14925
Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN View Post
Have you watched Hovinds' vids on the subject?





The "Flood" changed a lot about our earth.
I have in the past. On my phone I can't see what you posted. But I know I am not missing anything. if the flood is your response then you have nothing. How did kangaroos get to the ark from Australia and consequently back? How did Galapogos turtles get to their present location? The list goes on. The only explanation you could possibly use is the shifting plate tectonics but that doesn't work because the continents move at incredibly steady rates over the years and there is no way they could have been part of one landmass 4,000 years ago.

The KT boundary is a clear line of sediment observable all over the world whenever rocks that old are exposed. There have never been dinosaurs found above it, and never humans or even hominids of any kind below it.
Posts: 8,856
mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 10:55 PM   #302
mr. tegu mr. tegu is offline
Hopeful for playoffs
 
mr. tegu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2012
Casino cash: $14925
Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN View Post
The entire point of this thread was to prove that Evolution is a religion that requires belief. How can you dispute that point?
I already did that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. tegu View Post
Just to make the whole evolution thing clear, you cannot PROVE the evolution that Hovind or others demand. There are two types of evolution: micro and macro evolution. Micro evolution are changes that happen at the species level and can occur from one generation to another and can be something as simple as a change in the frequency of gene expression. These are observable characteristics. Macro evolution happens from the same forces that make up micro evolution, but it transcends species and cannot simply be "observed." Basically, small changes over a long period of time, lead to large changes in the species.

This evolution can't be observed and is the target of those who choose not to accept the facts (genetic drift, natural selection, etc.) that make up evolution.

The closest thing that has been observed occured with moths that began rapidly producing darker colored offspring because of polution so that they could blend into the darkened trees.Once the environment began reverting back to lightly colored trees the moths began reverting back to their normal light color. If the trees changed naturally or the environment did not heal, the light colored genes for moths would have been removed from the population due to predation since they are easily seen. Similar things can be seen when domesticated animals such as pigs escape and revert to a more natural and feral look. In just a few generations all the breeding that occurred to remove their tusks, aggressiveness and fur is completely gone.
Posts: 8,856
mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 10:58 PM   #303
mr. tegu mr. tegu is offline
Hopeful for playoffs
 
mr. tegu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2012
Casino cash: $14925
Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN View Post
It requires belief though.
Gravity is a theory. Do you believe in it?
Posts: 8,856
mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 11:03 PM   #304
stevieray stevieray is offline
Ring of Fire
 
stevieray's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $85036648
Quote:
Originally Posted by petegz28 View Post
I am both for Christ AND against Christ.
Jesus refers to this as lukewarm..it doesn't end well.
Posts: 36,169
stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 11:04 PM   #305
KILLER_CLOWN KILLER_CLOWN is offline
Be HEALED!!!!!!!
 
KILLER_CLOWN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fascist State
Casino cash: $11142616
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. tegu View Post
Gravity is a theory. Do you believe in it?
Yes because it is repeatable and observable..ie real science.
__________________
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

"If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 24,192
KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 11:07 PM   #306
stevieray stevieray is offline
Ring of Fire
 
stevieray's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $85036648
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. tegu View Post
You still haven't presented anything about dinosaurs. They pose a pretty big problem for a 6,000 year old earth.
maybe from our point of view...but from the out looking in...6ooo seems pretty plausible..IIRC, einstein was studying this in his latter years...first few verses in Genesis tell a huge behind the scenes story...
Posts: 36,169
stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 11:15 PM   #307
mr. tegu mr. tegu is offline
Hopeful for playoffs
 
mr. tegu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2012
Casino cash: $14925
Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN View Post
Yes because it is repeatable and observable..ie real science.
Gravity itself isn't observable. It's effects are. Hence it being a theory. Same with evolution. It's effects are well documented and observed but you cannot observe a process that takes thousands and millions of years to take place.
Posts: 8,856
mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 11:17 PM   #308
KILLER_CLOWN KILLER_CLOWN is offline
Be HEALED!!!!!!!
 
KILLER_CLOWN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fascist State
Casino cash: $11142616
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. tegu View Post
Gravity itself isn't observable. It's effects are. Hence it being a theory. Same with evolution. It's effects are well documented and observed but you cannot observe a process that takes thousands and millions of years to take place.
If you think gravity takes trillions of years to take place, I have an experiment for you.
__________________
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

"If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 24,192
KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 11:23 PM   #309
mr. tegu mr. tegu is offline
Hopeful for playoffs
 
mr. tegu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2012
Casino cash: $14925
Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN View Post
If you think gravity takes trillions of years to take place, I have an experiment for you.
Your contention was that gravity can be observed therefore it's valid, however it's effects are the only thing observable. The theory of relativity merely describes and explains the observations. Obviously this is an incredibly simple and concise overview.

Micro evolution can be observed. It is valid and factual. Micro evolution over millions of years is macro evolution. Macro evolution is changes in entire species and populations.
Posts: 8,856
mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 11:24 PM   #310
mr. tegu mr. tegu is offline
Hopeful for playoffs
 
mr. tegu's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2012
Casino cash: $14925
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. tegu View Post
I have in the past. On my phone I can't see what you posted. But I know I am not missing anything. if the flood is your response then you have nothing. How did kangaroos get to the ark from Australia and consequently back? How did Galapogos turtles get to their present location? The list goes on. The only explanation you could possibly use is the shifting plate tectonics but that doesn't work because the continents move at incredibly steady rates over the years and there is no way they could have been part of one landmass 4,000 years ago.

The KT boundary is a clear line of sediment observable all over the world whenever rocks that old are exposed. There have never been dinosaurs found above it, and never humans or even hominids of any kind below it.
.
Posts: 8,856
mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.mr. tegu is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 11:26 PM   #311
J Diddy J Diddy is offline
One Groovy Cat
 
J Diddy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: The Pitt State baby
Casino cash: $166228
Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN View Post
If you think gravity takes trillions of years to take place, I have an experiment for you.
Um.....He was demonstrating the inductive principle in science. Reading Comprehension fail.


Truth be told, here is my take. This guy has a belief that you share. That is all fine, however, the champion of your cause is bat shit crazy and the evidence is not there. You are in denial.
Posts: 29,284
J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 11:26 PM   #312
KILLER_CLOWN KILLER_CLOWN is offline
Be HEALED!!!!!!!
 
KILLER_CLOWN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fascist State
Casino cash: $11142616
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. tegu View Post
Micro evolution can be observed. It is valid and factual. Micro evolution over millions of years is macro evolution. Macro evolution is changes in entire species and populations.
That assumes facts not in evidence, when has Macro Evolution ever been observed? Seems to require giant leaps of faith. We can't prove millions of years.
__________________
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

"If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 24,192
KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 11:28 PM   #313
KILLER_CLOWN KILLER_CLOWN is offline
Be HEALED!!!!!!!
 
KILLER_CLOWN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fascist State
Casino cash: $11142616
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Diddy View Post
Um.....He was demonstrating the inductive principle in science. Reading Comprehension fail.
If you can't see the difference between The Theory of gravity and that of evolution then i don't know what to tell you.
__________________
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

"If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 24,192
KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 11:32 PM   #314
J Diddy J Diddy is offline
One Groovy Cat
 
J Diddy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: The Pitt State baby
Casino cash: $166228
Quote:
Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN View Post
That assumes facts not in evidence, when has Macro Evolution ever been observed? Seems to require giant leaps of faith. We can't prove millions of years.
Okay we have two frogs. One through chance has an immunity to batshit crazy mosquito venom. The other does not. Which one will survive in a world of batshit crazy mosquitos? What traits do you think he will pass down? In a land of batshit crazy mosquitos, odds are the one without an immunity stood a significantly lesser chance of passing his DNA, whereas the one who had a freak immunity stood a much higher probability.
Posts: 29,284
J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.J Diddy is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2012, 11:33 PM   #315
KILLER_CLOWN KILLER_CLOWN is offline
Be HEALED!!!!!!!
 
KILLER_CLOWN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fascist State
Casino cash: $11142616
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Diddy View Post
Okay we have two frogs. One through chance has an immunity to batshit crazy mosquito venom. The other does not. Which one will survive in a world of batshit crazy mosquitos? What traits do you think he will pass down? In a land of batshit crazy mosquitos, odds are the one without an immunity stood a significantly lesser chance of passing his DNA, whereas the one who had a freak immunity stood a much higher probability.
Do you teach batshit crazy evolution?
__________________
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

"If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 24,192
KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.KILLER_CLOWN is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.