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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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Here's the Kent Hovind Theory:



"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 02-16-2013, 12:03 PM   #2071
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you know what?

you can take your messages and your arrogant attitude and shove them up your ass...

**** you and **** your ****ing bullshit religiosity...

seriously, go to hell!!!
I wish he could, that would be priceless!
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:04 PM   #2072
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one thing is for sure, your version of the creator doesn't exist...

you've gone beyond weird nutcase, you've become a real abortion of a poster...

congratulations, you're now the most famous nut case on chiefs planet...

trouble is you actually believe all the crap you spew... smh...

speaking of nonsense, you're quite the expert aren't you?

**** you and the horse you screwed to get here...
Go Go Bowe!!
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:06 PM   #2073
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What can I say? I bring out the best/worst in people.
When will we see the best??
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:06 PM   #2074
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It's easily shown to be at least 4 billion years old with multiple different independent dating techniques.

Here's a good intro with tons of references:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
Do you really think he's going to give that the time of day?

It doesn't support his delusional beliefs.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:08 PM   #2075
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no, that would be you dave...that's why you are here...again.

Christ warned those who beleive in Him would not only be persecuted, they would also be killed...simple fact.
All powerful omnipotent creator. Creations helplessly persecuted and constantly abused and killed.

Seems legit...
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:10 PM   #2076
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no offense to you or Dave but this whole thread has no evidence that either side has been willing to listen

We all have our beliefs and we have been sticking to them
Just show me some evidence. I mean any real certifiable evidence that ANY of your positions are true and then we can talk. Until then you are a 14 year old that believes in Santa. Study up understand what 99.9% of scientists say and believe and then we can talk ,until then stay at the childs table.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:22 PM   #2077
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I get what you are saying but at the same time hard line evolutionist don't bend the other way either.
It is ok..not everyone believes the same. We can be civil about it and people like Bill Maher and other media used in the thread is what I am talking about being the most offensive.

It is apparent that in a forum like this the conversation isn't going to convince anyone enough to change their thinking or beliefs.
I'm not sure what you mean by "Bend the other way". Evolution is backed by science. Science will consider any and all ideas, no matter how strange. And trust me, science has some ideas so strange it would make you dizzy. BUT... there must be some form of evidence for it. That's not really negotiable. Whatever the claim, it has to pass the scientific method. There has to be some form of evidence. And I hate to tell you, but Creationism hasn't passed one single test in showing evidence of proof. No true scientist is going to "Bend" their thinking to believe something in which there's no evidence for. Evolution on the other hand, is supported by countless evidence.

And I apologize if you feel offended by some of the comments here. For me personally, I don't mind what you believe. But I have to admit I have a desire for you to think more independently and logically about the world around you. Not because I bear any ill will toward you at all. I simply despise misinformation. And creationism is misinformation. People infinitely smarter than you and I have been having this debate for hundreds of years. And the overwhelming conclusion is that evolution is truth and creationism is not. The evidence for it is so abundant and obvious that it isn't even a debate anymore.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:30 PM   #2078
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When will we see the best??
I guess you didn't "Get it" otherwise you could exhibit that.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:31 PM   #2079
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I'm not sure what you mean by "Bend the other way". Evolution is backed by science. Science will consider any and all ideas, no matter how strange. And trust me, science has some ideas so strange it would make you dizzy. BUT... there must be some form of evidence for it. That's not really negotiable. Whatever the claim, it has to pass the scientific method. There has to be some form of evidence. And I hate to tell you, but Creationism hasn't passed one single test in showing evidence of proof. No true scientist is going to "Bend" their thinking to believe something in which there's no evidence for. Evolution on the other hand, is supported by countless evidence.

And I apologize if you feel offended by some of the comments here. For me personally, I don't mind what you believe. But I have to admit I have a desire for you to think more independently and logically about the world around you. Not because I bear any ill will toward you at all. I simply despise misinformation. And creationism is misinformation. People infinitely smarter than you and I have been having this debate for hundreds of years. And the overwhelming conclusion is that evolution is truth and creationism is not. The evidence for it is so abundant and obvious that it isn't even a debate anymore.
Infinitely smarter? or more brainwashed and cornholed into a certain way of thinking?
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:32 PM   #2080
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It's easily shown to be at least 4 billion years old with multiple different independent dating techniques.

Here's a good intro with tons of references:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
Good to know people were around to record it with absolute proof, oh wait they weren't so it's just speculation.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:32 PM   #2081
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I'm not sure what you mean by "Bend the other way". Evolution is backed by science. Science will consider any and all ideas, no matter how strange. And trust me, science has some ideas so strange it would make you dizzy. BUT... there must be some form of evidence for it. That's not really negotiable. Whatever the claim, it has to pass the scientific method. There has to be some form of evidence. And I hate to tell you, but Creationism hasn't passed one single test in showing evidence of proof. No true scientist is going to "Bend" their thinking to believe something in which there's no evidence for. Evolution on the other hand, is supported by countless evidence.

And I apologize if you feel offended by some of the comments here. For me personally, I don't mind what you believe. But I have to admit I have a desire for you to think more independently and logically about the world around you. Not because I bear any ill will toward you at all. I simply despise misinformation. And creationism is misinformation. People infinitely smarter than you and I have been having this debate for hundreds of years. And the overwhelming conclusion is that evolution is truth and creationism is not. The evidence for it is so abundant and obvious that it isn't even a debate anymore.
Amen, brother.

Its all anyone has asked for in this thread. Show me ANY evidence, I promise to look at it and if credible I will change my views.

KC won't even watch a 60 second video of the hundreds posted. Yet I believe I have watched all the ones he has posted and most in full.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:35 PM   #2082
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Seriously, it's not even worth it.

On one side, you have people who have convinced themselves that what they believe is true. On the other side, you have reason.

Believing in God is fine, and different people have different reasons for doing so. But taking the bible literally and touting your religion as truth is delusional.
Spoken just like Satan, congrats you are filled with his spirit!
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Spoken just like Satan, congrats you are filled with his spirit!
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:52 PM   #2084
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I guess you didn't "Get it" otherwise you could exhibit that.
That's really a tragic flaw in religion. It essentially says that the only way to understand God, is to not believe other things. The only way to understand or know God is through faith. But that doesn't make any sense and goes against the basic fundamentals of how we learn and understand our world. No one should be encouraged to believe anything, religion or otherwise, with no evidence to support it. We don't learn about any other aspect of life in this way. The faith requirement is simply a defense mechanism to counter the fact that there's zero evidence for it. If any part of creationism could be proven, then the basis of faith would go away faster than lightning and quickly forgotten. But since there's no evidence, faith is all you have to hang on to.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:55 PM   #2085
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That's really a tragic flaw in religion. It essentially says that the only way to understand God, is to not believe other things. The only way to understand or know God is through faith. But that doesn't make any sense and goes against the basic fundamentals of how we learn and understand our world. No one should be encouraged to believe anything, religion or otherwise, with no evidence to support it. We don't learn about any other aspect of life in this way. The faith requirement is simply a defense mechanism to counter the fact that there's zero evidence for it. If any part of creationism could be proven, then the basis of faith would go away faster than lightning and quickly forgotten. But since there's no evidence, faith is all you have to hang on to.
Ok I'll admit not everyone gets it, as a matter of fact few do.
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