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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 07-20-2013, 10:43 PM   #2656
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The argument FOR Intelligent Design.

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Old 07-20-2013, 10:51 PM   #2657
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There isnt a single passage in the bible where God promises anyone or anything a walk in the park while alive... as beautiful as it can surely be, life is an ongoing struggle.

If you are ever so inclined, or feel the need to test your own beliefs, try reading "Heaven Is For Real", it wont change those who dont want to hear it, but i bet it will atleast expand your thoughts.

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Old 07-20-2013, 10:58 PM   #2658
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"You can’t just say there is a God because well, the world is beautiful.

You have to account for bone cancer in children.

You have to account for the fact that almost all animals in the wild live under stress with not enough to eat and will die violent and bloody deaths.

There is not any way that you can just choose the nice bits and say that means there is a God and ignore the true fact of what nature is. The wonder of nature must be taken in its totality and it is a wonderful thing.

It is absolutely marvelous and the idea that an atheist or a humanist if you want to put it that way, doesn’t marvel and wonder at reality, at the way things are, is nonsensical. The point is we wonder all the way."

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Pretty much my thoughts in catechism growing up catholic. But it's laughable to think something of a higher being and intelligence didn't kick off this petri dish we call life you're fooling yourself.
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:36 PM   #2659
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Pretty much my thoughts in catechism growing up catholic. But it's laughable to think something of a higher being and intelligence didn't kick off this petri dish we call life you're fooling yourself.
Why would you think that?
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:44 PM   #2660
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There isnt a single passage in the bible where God promises anyone or anything a walk in the park while alive... as beautiful as it can surely be, life is an ongoing struggle.

If you are ever so inclined, or feel the need to test your own beliefs, try reading "Heaven Is For Real", it wont change those who dont want to hear it, but i bet it will atleast expand your thoughts.

OK I don't mean to laugh at the video. I thought near death experiences at one time were some evidence of an afterlife. It actually kinda excited me at the time. Then I made the mistake of looking at it more closely and it completely burst my bubble.

There's a really good video I saw not long ago that discussed NDEs. I'll see if I can find it and post it.
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:49 PM   #2661
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Here's a pretty easy laypersons breakdown of NDEs from Popular Science.

http://www.popsci.com/science/articl...th-experiences
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:53 PM   #2662
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This is it, really really good although long explanation of NDEs.

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Old 07-21-2013, 12:07 AM   #2663
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OK I don't mean to laugh at the video. I thought near death experiences at one time were some evidence of an afterlife. It actually kinda excited me at the time. Then I made the mistake of looking at it more closely and it completely burst my bubble.

There's a really good video I saw not long ago that discussed NDEs. I'll see if I can find it and post it.
The shame of it is, that clip doesnt get across even a tenth of the book, the coincidences just pile upon one another at a staggering rate in this story, to the point that they stop being coincidences.

If you can find the book at your library, just please take the couple of hours to read it, it definitely goes beyond the psychology of NDE.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:16 AM   #2664
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The shame of it is, that clip doesnt get across even a tenth of the book, the coincidences just pile upon one another at a staggering rate in this story, to the point that they stop being coincidences.

If you can find the book at your library, just please take the couple of hours to read it, it definitely goes beyond the psychology of NDE.
Listen to the stuff I posted or read the Popsci issue. Like I said at one point I did find this to be valid, till I better understood it.
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The shame of it is, that clip doesnt get across even a tenth of the book, the coincidences just pile upon one another at a staggering rate in this story, to the point that they stop being coincidences.

If you can find the book at your library, just please take the couple of hours to read it, it definitely goes beyond the psychology of NDE.
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:01 PM   #2666
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Okay, I was wrong on a few accounts. It was actually a women that spoke with great understanding of science, not sure she is a "Scientist".

None the less this post and Dave's reply of someone else being "a troll" and "close minded" rather than forming a rebuttal had be rolling.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=193
Just read through that. She was often confused as to what she was arguing, just flat missed the argument against her. Not only that, but she wasn't always as informed as she tried to present herself to be. Likely referencing a creationists argument handbook online.

That and she likened science textbooks to the bible. In her words, just words written by men, no different. When the difference is, one is a unprovable, unauthenticated book of unconfirmed stories which is apparently both literal and not literal simultaneously. You are literally free to pick and choose what you want to believe having zero proof or desire to prove. Whereas science textbooks are full of only proven facts, or theories which have not been disproved after much review. Most everything in a science is testable and recreatable. They are full of knowledge we both strive to uphold and disprove. Only when we are sure it cannot be disproved can we be sure it is fact.
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:44 PM   #2668
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Pretty much my thoughts in catechism growing up catholic. But it's laughable to think something of a higher being and intelligence didn't kick off this petri dish we call life you're fooling yourself.
I'd say just the opposite.
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There's a really good video I saw not long ago that discussed NDEs. I'll see if I can find it and post it.
I always thought it was odd that people with NDEs claim they saw heaven and God and all the other stuff you got coming to you when you die, and the believers believe them.

It's called NEAR DEATH for a reason. It might be NEAR death, but it ain't death. Did God slip up and accidentally reveal all the goodies to someone who wasn't even really dead? I tend to think God would have a little more patience and be able to wait until actual death.
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Just read through that. She was often confused as to what she was arguing, just flat missed the argument against her. Not only that, but she wasn't always as informed as she tried to present herself to be. Likely referencing a creationists argument handbook online.

That and she likened science textbooks to the bible. In her words, just words written by men, no different. When the difference is, one is a unprovable, unauthenticated book of unconfirmed stories which is apparently both literal and not literal simultaneously. You are literally free to pick and choose what you want to believe having zero proof or desire to prove. Whereas science textbooks are full of only proven facts, or theories which have not been disproved after much review. Most everything in a science is testable and recreatable. They are full of knowledge we both strive to uphold and disprove. Only when we are sure it cannot be disproved can we be sure it is fact.
Ya know I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
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