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Old 08-31-2012, 06:24 PM  
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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 07-31-2013, 01:39 PM   #2731
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I'm arguing against supernatural superstition without SOME evidence to the contrary.
And I'm arguing against completely unnatural, physics-breaking, spontaneous appearance of a universe from nothing without evidence to the contrary.
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:39 PM   #2732
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I'd venture to bet that your parents chose your religion. Or are you claiming that your parents laid out all the thousands of religions when you were young and said "Take your pick, son."
My dad was an Atheist, mom was Catholic.
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:44 PM   #2733
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Are you arguing against creationism or the Bible?
neither, i'm arguing about kc's interpretation of the bible at this point, following up on his reading comprehension skills...

but i don't accept creationism as an acceptable explanation for the origin of the universe, nor do i regard the bible or any other sacred text as being the word of any god...

men created religion and gods to explain the unknowable, to avoid accepting that death is no more than nothingness...

men believe that the bible is the perfect word of god, despite the many contradictions and inconsistencies...

men want to believe in the after life rather than accept this life ends when your body no longer can support the brain, it's over, done, finito...
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:45 PM   #2734
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I'd venture to bet that your parents chose your religion. Or are you claiming that your parents laid out all the thousands of religions when you were young and said "Take your pick, son."
Alot of parents who laid out the religion end up with atheist children.

Alot of parents who were atheist end up with religious children.
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:45 PM   #2735
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neither, i'm arguing about kc's interpretation of the bible at this point, following up on his reading comprehension skills...

but i don't accept creationism as an acceptable explanation for the origin of the universe, nor do i regard the bible or any other sacred text as being the word of any god...

men created religion and gods to explain the unknowable, to avoid accepting that death is no more than nothingness...

men believe that the bible is the perfect word of god, despite the many contradictions and inconsistencies...

men want to believe in the after life rather than accept this life ends when your body no longer can support the brain, it's over, done, finito...

So you're way the hell off topic.
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:47 PM   #2736
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My dad was an Atheist, mom was Catholic.
AHA!!! now we know, it explains everything...

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Old 07-31-2013, 01:47 PM   #2737
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And I'm arguing against completely unnatural, physics-breaking, spontaneous appearance of a universe from nothing without evidence to the contrary.
The exact same idea applies to the Abrahamic God. Where's you evidence to answer where God came from? It's a little hypocritical....
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So you're way the hell off topic.
off topic?

have you been here long?
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:48 PM   #2739
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AHA!!! now we know, it explains everything...

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I'm not catholic either.
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I'm not catholic either.
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:50 PM   #2741
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Although I did grow up being forced that and scared of Nuns. Some of them WERE just like the nun from the Blues Brothers.
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neither, i'm arguing about kc's interpretation of the bible at this point, following up on his reading comprehension skills...

but i don't accept creationism as an acceptable explanation for the origin of the universe, nor do i regard the bible or any other sacred text as being the word of any god...

men created religion and gods to explain the unknowable, to avoid accepting that death is no more than nothingness...

men believe that the bible is the perfect word of god, despite the many contradictions and inconsistencies...

men want to believe in the after life rather than accept this life ends when your body no longer can support the brain, it's over, done, finito...
It drives me nuts when people focus some much on the "after life". Jesus came to save the world, to restore Eden, to make things right through him. The goal is not to get to Heaven, but to bring Heaven to Earth. I could go on, but I understand I'm speaking on deaf ears here and I just had to vent that point before I get out of this cesspool of a thread.
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The exact same idea applies to the Abrahamic God. Where's you evidence to answer where God came from? It's a little hypocritical....
You're almost there. Calling me hypocritical, but not seeing it in yourself.

I can imagine a God that is outside of our universe, and not subject to its laws, that created a physical universe where certain laws apply.

I cannot imagine nothing turning into something for no reason at all, especially something as complex as the universe.

I admit freely, I may be wrong. But I choose to believe in a God.

Can you admit that you may be wrong?
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It drives me nuts when people focus some much on the "after life". Jesus came to save the world, to restore Eden, to make things right through him. The goal is not to get to Heaven, but to bring Heaven to Earth. I understand I'm speaking on deaf ears here, but I just had to vent that point and get out of this cesspool of a thread.
Well that is partially true, but the physical existence is not our eternal reward. Eye has not seen, ear has not heard what the Lord has in store for us. If this is it I want a refund.
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And I'm arguing against completely unnatural, physics-breaking, spontaneous appearance of a universe from nothing without evidence to the contrary.
How do you know any of this is true? We don't know the conditions before the Big Bang. There may have been stuff everywhere.
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