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Old 08-31-2012, 06:24 PM  
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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 09-14-2013, 02:48 PM   #2896
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...over 200 "NEW" bibles in the last 100 years...talk about hostile jamming...funny how the KJV was written in English over 400 years ago, and it's just a coincidence that English is the universal language. America has accomplished what it was brought into existance for...establish equality of men through inalienable rights given by God and to support Israel and spread the Word throughout the World.
Talking about lost translation earlier does not help your side of the discussion. Through translation Mary could have been a maiden and not a virgin and the utter disconect that created. As far as plans go using the KJV as a golden stardard is a reach. Also in this plan America is needed to side with the people who deny Christ and are doomed to eternal hell. In development of this plan several thousands of variations of the belief have formed. Doesn't strike me as a well thought out plan. It would take hours upon hours of typing to list the reasons I cannot square this circle. I am sincerely happy you find happiness in you belief and we shall have to agree to disagree~
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:55 AM   #2897
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Speaking of translations or translators I think I need one on almost the every Stevie Ray post, it is so difficult maybe it's just early in the morning I'm not sure which.
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:58 AM   #2898
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Crown of Thorns Galaxy?
Hand of God Nebula?


do you ever get tired of piggybacking off others posts?

you're so insecure ,Dave.
So am I supposed to be impressed that you know a couple astronomical objects or is it somehow your proof for the fact that there is a God?
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:33 AM   #2899
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on almost the every Stevie Ray post, .
you're a dumbass Dave....learn to use the word too correctly in a sentence yet?
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:35 AM   #2900
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So am I supposed to be impressed that you know a couple astronomical objects or is it somehow your proof for the fact that there is a God?
Why are you so obsessed with mocking people's beliefs? Do you feel threatened by them?
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:37 AM   #2901
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Why are you so obsessed with mocking people's beliefs? Do you feel threatened by them?
he's insecure, that's why the majority of his posts are insulting others intelligence.

he makes Native look like Mother Theresa.
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:40 AM   #2902
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he's insecure, that's why the majorityof his posts are insulting others intelligence.

he makes Native look like Mother Theresa.
In my experience if you are secure in your beliefs you are comfortable having discourse with those of different views but you don't mock or disrespect those views. I do however feel sorry for a man without a God, but I won't push it on him.
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Old 09-15-2013, 09:24 AM   #2903
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In my experience if you are secure in your beliefs you are comfortable having discourse with those of different views but you don't mock or disrespect those views. I do however feel sorry for a man without a God, but I won't push it on him.
I feel sorry for people that justify there existence through there belief in something they can never truly know is real, and then proclaim there pity for other people that do not share the same beliefs in invisible gate keepers and pitchfork wielding devils.
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Old 09-15-2013, 09:25 AM   #2904
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I feel sorry for people that justify there existence through there belief in something they can never truly know is real, and then proclaim there pity for other people that do not share the same beliefs in invisible gate keepers and pitchfork wielding devils.
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:54 PM   #2905
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In my experience if you are secure in your beliefs you are comfortable having discourse with those of different views but you don't mock or disrespect those views. I do however feel sorry for a man without a God, but I won't push it on him.
Why do you feel sorry for someone without faith in God?

Faith in a God provides some people a sense of personal humility and humbleness. Can this not be achieved by looking at the accomplishments and character of fellow humans? What about considering the wonder of nature or the vastness of the universe?

Faith in God could give someone a sense that someone loved them unconditionally. However, when I look around me, I see many living, breathing people that love and care for me a great deal. That love it is very deep, very real, and meaningful. Is this not enough?

Faith in God provides guidance and motivation for how one interacts with others. But faith is neither necessary nor sufficient condition for ethical behavior. Empathy, which seems to be hardwired into most individualís biology, and parental upbringing to connect those thoughts to behavior seem to be more important. There are strong philosophical and economic arguments for moral, ethical, and altruistic behavior to provide the societal level expectation for maintaining these values. I donít think faith in God provides a benefit here.

I could go on, but Iím more interested in hearing from others what unique benefits are derived from faith in a God?
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Old 09-15-2013, 08:07 PM   #2906
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I could go on, but Iím more interested in hearing from others what unique benefits are derived from faith in a God?
I chuckled for quite a while on that, fortunately I wasn't eating or drinking anything.
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Why do you feel sorry for someone without faith in God?

Faith in a God provides some people a sense of personal humility and humbleness. Can this not be achieved by looking at the accomplishments and character of fellow humans? What about considering the wonder of nature or the vastness of the universe?

Faith in God could give someone a sense that someone loved them unconditionally. However, when I look around me, I see many living, breathing people that love and care for me a great deal. That love it is very deep, very real, and meaningful. Is this not enough?

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I could go on, but Iím more interested in hearing from others what unique benefits are derived from faith in a God?
Well stated. Perhaps that was a condescending statement. I would amend it to say everyone is free to believe as they will and no-one should be mocked for it.
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Talking about lost translation earlier does not help your side of the discussion. Through translation Mary could have been a maiden and not a virgin and the utter disconect that created. As far as plans go using the KJV as a golden stardard is a reach. Also in this plan America is needed to side with the people who deny Christ and are doomed to eternal hell. In development of this plan several thousands of variations of the belief have formed. Doesn't strike me as a well thought out plan. It would take hours upon hours of typing to list the reasons I cannot square this circle. I am sincerely happy you find happiness in you belief and we shall have to agree to disagree~
There really isn't much for me to add this. I do feel obligated to mention that touting America as some sort of political entity that is sanctioned by God is just as evil and dishonest as relying on Divine Right to justify a monarchy.
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Talking about lost translation earlier does not help your side of the discussion. Through translation Mary could have been a maiden and not a virgin and the utter disconect that created. As far as plans go using the KJV as a golden stardard is a reach. Also in this plan America is needed to side with the people who deny Christ and are doomed to eternal hell. In development of this plan several thousands of variations of the belief have formed. Doesn't strike me as a well thought out plan. It would take hours upon hours of typing to list the reasons I cannot square this circle. I am sincerely happy you find happiness in you belief and we shall have to agree to disagree~
it absolutely does..the correct translation is up to the reader. the same story had no qualns using the terms naked and nakedness, yet it used the word uncovered....got coverage on Silver? why? so you won't be vulnerable? if 33,000 artists painted counterfeit Mona Lisas ..it doesn't devalue the original...

NIV removes 64,000 words from the original texts, yet you want to point at the KJV by propping counterfeit texts? hence hostile jamiing

Sacred reliance on Divine Privdence..America has done it's job. Church AT Philadelphia..we now are in the church OF the Laodiceans..peoples opinions.

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it absolutely does..the correct translation is up to the reader. the same story had no qualns using the terms naked and nakedness, yet it used the word ....got coverage on Silver? why? so you won't be vulnerable? if 33,000 artists painted counterfeit Mona Lisas ..it doesn't devalue the original...

NIV removes 64,00 words from the original texts, yet you want to point at the KJV by propping counterfeit texts? hence hostile jamiing

Sacred reliance on Divine Privdence..America has done it's job. Church AT Philadelphia..we now are in the church OF the Laodiceans..peoples opinions.
Absolutely, like i've stated before. God is Didactic and Satan preaches the dialectic. You won't really die if you eat that fruit......
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