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Old 08-31-2012, 06:24 PM  
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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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Here's the Kent Hovind Theory:



"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 09-17-2013, 12:58 AM   #2926
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what has this nebula been named??

and no you didn't, I responded to your verses in Gen post.
I didn' respond to the Noah story because I don't read Hebrew and I'm pretty sure you don't either.

I checked NASB (which according to my understanding is regarded as the most word-for-word translation at the sacrifice of readability), NIV, and even NKJ (not regarded as a reliable translation from a scholarly point of view). All had naked as the translation.

Not sure what point you are making about Noah "knowing" what Ham had done to him. Are you saying that Ham took his clothes off? 1) that is a screwy reading of the NKJ, but I can see how if you wanted it to say that you could and 2) that doesn't exactly make Noah innocent because he shouldn't have gotten so drunk that he didn't wake up when someone started taking his clothes off and 3) just because Noah planted the first vineyard doesn't mean there was no alcohol before the flood. That's a really weird interpretation. You leave any simple sugar or carbohydrate out in the rain, it gets wet, some wild yeast or fermentative bacteria falls on it and boom, you have wine or beer. Unless you want to argue that yeast evolved from non-yeast post flood...
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:35 PM   #2927
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What is this "astronomical object" called, Dave?
NGC 7293

The Helix Nebula, also known as The Helix, is a large planetary nebula, I've photo'ed it its NGC 7293.
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:39 PM   #2928
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Here's its right ascension and declination if you would like to find it in the sky. I suggest after midnight for highest transit.

Right ascension 22h 29m 38.55s
Declination −20 50′ 13.6″
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:03 AM   #2929
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I didn' respond to the Noah story because I don't read Hebrew and I'm pretty sure you don't either.

I checked NASB (which according to my understanding is regarded as the most word-for-word translation at the sacrifice of readability), NIV, and even NKJ (not regarded as a reliable translation from a scholarly point of view). All had naked as the translation.

Not sure what point you are making about Noah "knowing" what Ham had done to him. Are you saying that Ham took his clothes off? 1) that is a screwy reading of the NKJ, but I can see how if you wanted it to say that you could and 2) that doesn't exactly make Noah innocent because he shouldn't have gotten so drunk that he didn't wake up when someone started taking his clothes off and 3) just because Noah planted the first vineyard doesn't mean there was no alcohol before the flood. That's a really weird interpretation. You leave any simple sugar or carbohydrate out in the rain, it gets wet, some wild yeast or fermentative bacteria falls on it and boom, you have wine or beer. Unless you want to argue that yeast evolved from non-yeast post flood...
this post is satire, correct?
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:04 AM   #2930
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NGC 7293

The Helix Nebula, also known as The Helix, is a large planetary nebula, I've photo'ed it its NGC 7293.
Eye of God.
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:32 AM   #2931
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Eye of God.
Ohh you're talking about that silly chain e-mail forwarded around that incorrectly called that helix nebula the "Eye of God", aren't you?

You realize that isn't the real name it was given right? The "Eye of God" name was added later by some idiot that simply liked the photo and made up a goofy fake story about it.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/space/eyeofgod.asp

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The picture's "Eye of God" appellations is a title coined by an admirer of the photo due to the nebula's resemblance to a human eye, not something designated by NASA, and the nebula is also visible all the time, not merely "once in 3000 years."
Come on man... Most astronomical objects have Arabic names, some Greek.

If you're really curious, here's a good explanation of how and why astronomical objects are named: http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.ips-pla...med-Bishop.pdf
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:40 PM   #2932
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this post is satire, correct?
No. Totally serious. I have a hard time following you sometimes.
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:44 AM   #2933
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:09 PM   #2934
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I didn' respond to the Noah story because I don't read Hebrew and I'm pretty sure you don't either.

I checked NASB (which according to my understanding is regarded as the most word-for-word translation at the sacrifice of readability), NIV, and even NKJ (not regarded as a reliable translation from a scholarly point of view). All had naked as the translation.

Not sure what point you are making about Noah "knowing" what Ham had done to him. Are you saying that Ham took his clothes off? 1) that is a screwy reading of the NKJ, but I can see how if you wanted it to say that you could and 2) that doesn't exactly make Noah innocent because he shouldn't have gotten so drunk that he didn't wake up when someone started taking his clothes off and 3) just because Noah planted the first vineyard doesn't mean there was no alcohol before the flood. That's a really weird interpretation. You leave any simple sugar or carbohydrate out in the rain, it gets wet, some wild yeast or fermentative bacteria falls on it and boom, you have wine or beer. Unless you want to argue that yeast evolved from non-yeast post flood...
not reading Hebrew doesn't invaldiate the translation. it's really odd to hear a teacher proclaim that....it's also odd that somebody thinks the Bible has to be easier....do you make your students tests easier??..common denominator of the "bibles" you mentioned...NEW. .and they all don't say naked...again over 200 'new" bibles in a 100 years, why do you think that is?

as far as the story of noah goes, blaming him for Hams' actions? you can't be serious...so if someone is drunk, say your "daughter" and a guy takes advantage of her when she's passed out, it's her fault? cmon cd...I'm curious why it's so important that noah was naked? the next verse states that noah knew what Ham had done..what is it that makes it hard for you to understand those sand their relevance to the story?


Maybe I misread fish's orignal post..but all I claimed about noah being drunk was that it was post flood..

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Ohh you're talking about that silly chain e-mail forwarded around that incorrectly called that helix nebula the "Eye of God", aren't you?

You realize that isn't the real name it was given right? The "Eye of God" name was added later by some idiot that simply liked the photo and made up a goofy fake story about it.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/space/eyeofgod.asp



Come on man... Most astronomical objects have Arabic names, some Greek.

If you're really curious, here's a good explanation of how and why astronomical objects are named: http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.ips-pla...med-Bishop.pdf
and you call Bono Paul Hewson, correct?
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Heh...

weak, Dinosaurs fell with Satan.

you ,nor anyone in this forum could write a supernatural book like say..Matthew.
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and you call Bono Paul Hewson, correct?




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This is a nice pic of the Helix Nebula.
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This is kinda interesting. A real twist

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