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Old 08-31-2012, 06:24 PM  
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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 10-23-2013, 05:31 PM   #3106
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Creationism is based for all practical purposes on The Bible . The bible is an oracle and precognitive dreaming is part and parcel to the prophetic mechanism . Speaking something into existence , dreaming about something that comes to pass , its all the same prophetic process . What is it you are looking for ? DNA with a copyright with YHWH on it ?
You can't really say things like "The Bible is an oracle", and proceed with discussion like that's a rational or accepted thought. The Bible doesn't predict anything. People have been trying to decode the Bible for future prophecies for about as long as the Bible has existed. That's resulted in jack and squat regarding actual predictions for things that haven't occurred yet.

How many times has the Apocalypse been incorrectly prophesized now?
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:33 PM   #3107
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Creationism is based for all practical purposes on The Bible .
Close enough.


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The bible is an oracle
In your opinion.

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and precognitive dreaming is part and parcel to the prophetic mechanism .
In your opinion.

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Speaking something into existence , dreaming about something that comes to pass , its all the same prophetic process .
In your opinion


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What is it you are looking for ? DNA with a copyright with YHWH on it ?
No, because you probably aren't going to prove Creationism. There isn't a Creator who has left any proof of their existence that we have found. And the more we find, the less likely a Creator becomes.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:51 PM   #3108
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And thats how laws against practicing the teaching are justified. They arent opinions to those who truly are followers of Jesus Christ. The irony of it all is people who professed to be Christians used the excuse that the Native Americans were uncivilized backwards and savages to do what they did. The whole notion that this is all Opinion is the foundation for stripping The People of their rights of religious observance . The only laws allowed are the ones enforced by the justicice system . Christians are obliged to observe laws they are prohibited from observing.

The thing is...yes, they absolutely are. That's why separation of Church and State is so important. You are of course free to believe whatever you wish. You are free to hold your beliefs as strongly as you wish. You aren't free to expect others to live by your opinions, your choices, your beliefs. And that's a great thing.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:51 PM   #3109
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And thats how laws against practicing the teaching are justified. They arent opinions to those who truly are followers of Jesus Christ. The irony of it all is people who professed to be Christians used the excuse that the Native Americans were uncivilized backwards and savages to do what they did. The whole notion that this is all Opinion is the foundation for stripping The People of their rights of religious observance . The only laws allowed are the ones enforced by the justicice system .
Opinions don't become facts simply because someone believes it. Some Muslims actually believe that if they blow themselves up with a bomb and kill others, they'll be rewarded with 72 virgins in the afterlife. Would you consider that to be a fact simply because those people believe in it with all their heart?

Nobody is stripping you of religious observance. You're allowed to observe your religion wherever you choose in this country.

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Christians are obliged to observe laws they are prohibited from observing.
What is this I don't even.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:55 PM   #3110
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Opinions don't become facts simply because someone believes it. Some Muslims actually believe that if they blow themselves up with a bomb and kill others, they'll be rewarded with 72 virgins in the afterlife. Would you consider that to be a fact simply because those people believe in it with all their heart?

Nobody is stripping you of religious observance. You're allowed to observe your religion wherever you choose in this country.



What is this I don't even.

And that is why this is a thing:


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Old 10-23-2013, 05:56 PM   #3111
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So again you are saying me and my congregation are allowed to discriminate according to the Teaching ? I dont think so.
No he's saying that you believing in something doesn't make it true.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:03 PM   #3112
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And that is why this is a thing:



Or, for a less smart ass answer, here's a wiki link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:05 PM   #3113
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So again you are saying me and my congregation are allowed to discriminate according to the Teaching ? I dont think so and those running things are dying to make home schooling totally illegal.
Allowed to discriminate? No. I said you're allowed to hold your opinions and observe your religion in the manner you choose. Just like Muslims are. Just like Buddhists are. Just like Scientoligists are. Just like members of the Flying Spaghetti Monster religion are. Each of those religions is afforded the same American rights to practice and observe their religion. As a member of a religion, you're even afforded some additional rights. Like tax deductions for your religious donations.

All that's asked, is that you keep that stuff out of the public classroom and don't expect others to adhere to your beliefs.
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Who is in charge of deciding what is true ? I would like to speak to them privately.
How do I get a your tube to post with screen ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19u2t...6u31VssoujhfsQ
Do you worship and honor at the altar of a cargo cult?
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What I am hearing is that since 9-11 Its no longer allowed to act on Christian Teachings because of the muslims .
More fear mongering and hate mongering from the WAR ON CHRISTMAS crowd.
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Who is in charge of deciding what is true ? I would like to speak to them privately.
How do I get a your tube to post with screen ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19u2t...6u31VssoujhfsQ


What I am hearing is that since 9-11 Its no longer allowed to act on Christian Teachings because of the muslims .
Nobody is in charge. That's not how it works. It's not a judgment call made by any particular person or group. Truthful information cannot be controlled or manipulated if it is sought by enough unbiased seekers. Because truthful information is able to be repeated experimentally. It doesn't require faith, because you can simply reattempt the claim being made. And if someone makes a claim that cannot be experimented or repeated, treat that claim with the utmost skepticism and reserve belief until it can be confirmed. Be skeptical of everything. Research the topic. Consult experts. And most importantly, ignore your own confirmation bias.
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Religion is what you do , and the laws that bind a person to do what they do. Its LAW and you are blowing smoke. More or less what you are laying out pretty much supports the notion of arming islamist extremists who in part where made that way by being invaded and abused. By creating AL Qaeda the Elite have an excuse to prohibit all religion except the one that establishes human laws calling them scientifically grounded in reality.


You are free to believe you are right , but this collectively held agenda is bound to go down the crapper .
How many religions have been prohibited here in the United States now? I've lost count...

Freedom of religion doesn't mean arming Islamist extremists. Not sure what you mean there. I would never support arming any type of extremists, especially religious ones.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:39 PM   #3118
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Wow sounds like a religious creed to me . Not much different from the KJV thumpers and how they expect everyone to fall in line with These and Thous of KJ English. They are mreo alike than they are dissimilar. You are speaking from a fundamental Physist's paradigm as if it was all there is to Creation and Reality . I told you I am the son of a chemical phsycist and live in an envirment full of research scientists and the funny thing is even they wouldn't agree with you .
Well that settles it. Thanks~
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This has to be a poe account nobody could be this dumb, even with practice even with KC nut brainpower on purpose it's unbelievable.
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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This has to be a poe account nobody could be this dumb, even with practice even with KC nut brainpower on purpose it's unbelievable.
I am reasonable convinced it is a dupe~
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