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Old 08-31-2012, 06:24 PM  
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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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Here's the Kent Hovind Theory:



"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 02-08-2014, 08:13 PM   #3571
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How the hell has YouTube not had their headquarters bombed or an executive executed over this?
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Old 02-09-2014, 09:46 PM   #3572
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Pat Robertson implores creationist Ken Ham to shut up: ‘Let’s not make a joke of ourselves’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/0...-of-ourselves/

Pat Robertson responded to the recent debate between Young Earth creationist Ken Ham and Bill Nye, a.k.a. “The Science Guy,” by reiterating his disagreement with Ham’s form of creationism.

“Let’s face it,” Robertson said, “there was a Bishop [Ussher] who added up the dates listed in Genesis and he came up with the world had been around for 6,000 years.”

“There ain’t no way that’s possible,” he continued. “To say that it all came about in 6,000 years is just nonsense and I think it’s time we come off of that stuff and say this isn’t possible.”

“Let’s be real, let’s not make a joke of ourselves.”

“We’ve got to be realistic,” he concluded, and admit “that the dating of Bishop Ussher just doesn’t comport with anything that is found in science and you can’t just totally deny the geological formations that are out there.”

Last November, Robertson raised the ire of Young Earth Creationists when he made similar statements. The hosts of “Creation Today,” Eric Hovind and Paul F. Taylor, attacked Robertson for claiming that dinosaurs could exist, because the world isn’t, in fact, only 6,000 years old.

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Old 02-09-2014, 09:56 PM   #3573
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If you didn't have 2 hours to spend watching the debate, here's a nice 3 minute video containing the highlights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad160wejFOg
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Old 02-09-2014, 11:08 PM   #3574
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Most important 21 seconds in the Bill Nye- Ken Ham Debate

2/3rds of the stars in the sky have Arabic names.

Over 1000 years ago Baghdad was the leading scientific center of the world where people of all religions and races would come together to search for truth.

Then some asshole Imam decided that math and science were evil and essentially abolished them thinking that the Koran has all of the answers.

Now most Muslims don't think you can mix salt water and fresh water... cos it says that in their book!

His point is incredibly valid and has a historical precedent.
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Old 02-10-2014, 12:34 AM   #3575
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Pat Robertson implores creationist Ken Ham to shut up: ‘Let’s not make a joke of ourselves’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/0...-of-ourselves/

Pat Robertson responded to the recent debate between Young Earth creationist Ken Ham and Bill Nye, a.k.a. “The Science Guy,” by reiterating his disagreement with Ham’s form of creationism.

“Let’s face it,” Robertson said, “there was a Bishop [Ussher] who added up the dates listed in Genesis and he came up with the world had been around for 6,000 years.”

There ain’t no way that’s possible,” he continued. “To say that it all came about in 6,000 years is just nonsense and I think it’s time we come off of that stuff and say this isn’t possible.”

“Let’s be real, let’s not make a joke of ourselves.”

“We’ve got to be realistic,” he concluded, and admit “that the dating of Bishop Ussher just doesn’t comport with anything that is found in science and you can’t just totally deny the geological formations that are out there.”

Last November, Robertson raised the ire of Young Earth Creationists when he made similar statements. The hosts of “Creation Today,” Eric Hovind and Paul F. Taylor, attacked Robertson for claiming that dinosaurs could exist, because the world isn’t, in fact, only 6,000 years old.
I've always said that Pat Robertson isn't a nut at all...when he's talking about the age of the earth. I am genuinely surprised to hear something like this form him.

But it makes me wonder--if he, and I assume others--can depart from a literal Genesis, why can't they exercise similar sensible judgment on other issues?
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Old 02-10-2014, 05:19 AM   #3576
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I just noticed Ken Ham is Australian. God ****ing damnit. Good job Queensland.
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Old 02-10-2014, 06:21 AM   #3577
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I just noticed Ken Ham is Australian. God ****ing damnit. Good job Queensland.
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Old 02-10-2014, 06:53 AM   #3578
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Pat Robertson implores creationist Ken Ham to shut up: ‘Let’s not make a joke of ourselves’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/0...-of-ourselves/

Pat Robertson responded to the recent debate between Young Earth creationist Ken Ham and Bill Nye, a.k.a. “The Science Guy,” by reiterating his disagreement with Ham’s form of creationism.

“Let’s face it,” Robertson said, “there was a Bishop [Ussher] who added up the dates listed in Genesis and he came up with the world had been around for 6,000 years.”

“There ain’t no way that’s possible,” he continued. “To say that it all came about in 6,000 years is just nonsense and I think it’s time we come off of that stuff and say this isn’t possible.”

“Let’s be real, let’s not make a joke of ourselves.”

“We’ve got to be realistic,” he concluded, and admit “that the dating of Bishop Ussher just doesn’t comport with anything that is found in science and you can’t just totally deny the geological formations that are out there.”

Last November, Robertson raised the ire of Young Earth Creationists when he made similar statements. The hosts of “Creation Today,” Eric Hovind and Paul F. Taylor, attacked Robertson for claiming that dinosaurs could exist, because the world isn’t, in fact, only 6,000 years old.
Pat Robertson...doctrine of a demon.
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:06 PM   #3579
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Pat Robertson...doctrine of a demon.
So he's a demon because he rejects your beloved creationism?

Nice.

But not exactly surprising coming from someone who thinks (and I use the term loosely) that anyone who doesn't believe what he believes will be TORTURED IN HELLFIRE FOREVER.

Ignorance + Arrogance = The Perfect Creationist
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:15 PM   #3580
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I can't believe anybody that fancies themselves an intellectual or critical thinker could watch Bill Nye and think he delivered anything close to a "headshot".

In fact, he offered very little evidence at all, instead choosing to stand on the idea that his version of the truth is the truth and that's all there is to it.

Sound familiar?
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Old 02-10-2014, 04:02 PM   #3581
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I can't believe anybody that fancies themselves an intellectual or critical thinker could watch Bill Nye and think he delivered anything close to a "headshot".

In fact, he offered very little evidence at all, instead choosing to stand on the idea that his version of the truth is the truth and that's all there is to it.

Sound familiar?
You should try watching it again. When Ham's best rebuttal is, "you don't know that the tree only gains one ring a year," the debate is over.
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Old 02-10-2014, 04:48 PM   #3583
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I can't believe anybody that fancies themselves an intellectual or critical thinker could watch Bill Nye and think he delivered anything close to a "headshot".

In fact, he offered very little evidence at all, instead choosing to stand on the idea that his version of the truth is the truth and that's all there is to it.

Sound familiar?
HIS version? That rogue Bill Nye, going off on his own and coming up with this evolution thing. I wonder if it will catch on.
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HIS version? That rogue Bill Nye, going off on his own and coming up with this evolution thing. I wonder if it will catch on.
his version, her version, he she or it version...

whassa matta?

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HIS version? That rogue Bill Nye, going off on his own and coming up with this evolution thing. I wonder if it will catch on.
It was Bill Nye that kept referring to Creation as Ken Ham's version of the truth.

Thanks for perfectly illustrating my point.
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