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Old 02-26-2014, 09:45 AM   #3631
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As if they're isolated learners just because they're not learning in a collectivist environment.
Simple observation would prove that's not the case.

Of course, Bill Nye has shown over and again he doesn't understand the scientific method.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:22 AM   #3632
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Simple observation would prove that's not the case.

Of course, Bill Nye has shown over and again he doesn't understand the scientific method.
How has he shown that?
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:24 AM   #3633
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How has he shown that?
By making blanket, blatant generalizations with no basis in fact and treating them as the "truth".

The fact that he calls himself a scientist at all is hilarious. He's a lobbyist and politician.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:38 AM   #3634
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How has he shown that?
Because, as htismaqe said, Nye's could not observe. Ya' know by ASSuming homeschoolers were isolated learners. Isn't observation required in the scientific method? I think so.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:44 AM   #3635
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Yes, home school kids take standardized tests.

No, they don't skip parts.

And guess what? By and large, they score in the top 5 percent of their classes.

Imagine that.
Yep. And there are now associations that provide them with the opportunity to socialIze as well...
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:49 AM   #3636
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By making blanket, blatant generalizations with no basis in fact and treating them as the "truth".

The fact that he calls himself a scientist at all is hilarious. He's a lobbyist and politician.
What generalizations has he treated as truth?
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:51 AM   #3637
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Yep. And there are now associations that provide them with the opportunity to socialIze as well...
My kids are in sports, band, debate, community theatre, and so on.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:54 AM   #3638
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On February 10, 2014, Bill Nye (The Science Guy) called for a question and answer session on his Facebook page.

He wrote the following:

Bill Nye (the Science Guy) here, sitting by ready to take your questions (your good questions)…

A member of a private Facebook group I belong to posted her question to Bill Nye that sparked heated debate.

Here is Michelle Pippin’s question:

The homeschool community is severely lacking in real science curricula. Will you give thought to creating a science curriculum for the ever-growing number of secular homeschoolers?

Here is Mr. Nye’s response:

Use your judgment. The rest of us out here, want your kids to appreciate society and the importance of working together in school and in life. A person working alone will probably not build the future 797 airplane, for example. It takes people who can work with and around people. Carry on.


http://www.homeschooldiaries.com/did...recent-debate/

He told that woman that homeschoolers, including secular homeschoolers, are incapably of working with and around people. Notice that he didn't say he was concerned about the potential for homeschoolers to be isolated. He said "a person working alone", implying that homeschoolers don't, and can't, work with others.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:57 AM   #3639
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My kids are in sports, band, debate, community theatre, and so on.
Good on you. It isn't a route I've chosen but it's certainly a viable route given the right parents from what I understand. Has come a long way since the early days...
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:59 AM   #3640
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Good on you. It isn't a route I've chosen but it's certainly a viable route given the right parents from what I understand. Has come a long way since the early days...
Of course, having the right parentage is of utmost importance. Having morons teach their kids at home isn't any better than letting them be subjected to public school.

In our case, it was the only way our kids could get the attention they need to continue to advance at the rate they are.

Our school, like a lot of rural schools, caters to the lowest common denominator. The "average" is much lower than 50th percentile, unfortunately.
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:04 AM   #3641
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http://www.homeschooldiaries.com/did...recent-debate/

He told that woman that homeschoolers, including secular homeschoolers, are incapably of working with and around people. Notice that he didn't say he was concerned about the potential for homeschoolers to be isolated. He said "a person working alone", implying that homeschoolers don't, and can't, work with others.
As a parent of a home schooled child, that's pretty disappointing. We have dedicated home schooling programs set up to bring together home school children and let them work together on various topics just for that reason. I can't expect Nye to create curriculum for free, but giving that kind of a blunt dismissive response is certainly troubling.
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My kids are in sports, band, debate, community theatre, and so on.
Yup exactly. Missed this post the first time...
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:26 AM   #3643
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My kids are in sports, band, debate, community theatre, and so on.
I think that is awesome. There are several families in my neighborhood who home school and all the children have outside activities like those you mentioned.
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As a parent of a home schooled child, that's pretty disappointing. We have dedicated home schooling programs set up to bring together home school children and let them work together on various topics just for that reason. I can't expect Nye to create curriculum for free, but giving that kind of a blunt dismissive response is certainly troubling.
it sounds like you agree with each other.
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:37 PM   #3645
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They already have the ability to opt-out. It's called home schooling.
Let em do that and get whatever high school diploma they get for graduating from home school.

On a related note, anyone know how someone graduates from high school when it was a home school education? Do they still have to pass some kind of standardized test to see that they learned what they were supposed to learn? Are they allowed to just skip the objectionable parts?
There are various ways, depending on your involvement with the schools in your district. The high school we associated with (For baseball, choir, and basketball) would have let me walk with them.

I was homeschooled from 8th grade on. Similar situation at htismaque, I think. Small rural school. Really rough, bad class (31 kids at start of 7th grade... 13 graduated from HS on time. 9 of 17 girls in class had kids before graduation).

I took both the ACT and the GED when I was finished, and actually was in my second year taking college classes at the local CC when I "graduated" as a senior.

It's not for everyone. As htis points out, the parents matter a lot. The child's disposition matters a lot, too. I'm a self-starter and work really well/learn really well on my own. It was great for me. It was terrible for my little sister.

I went on to crush the ACT (29, 33) and graduated from Mizzou with honors. It was much more of a struggle for her.

Most home school science curricula is an absolute joke. Though home school parents ALWAYS have the option of buying directly from the printer. That's what we always did with math and science courses (Saxon). We did find the "Christian-based" literature to be much more advanced than what was offered in the local public school.
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