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Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 07-25-2014, 09:33 AM   #3751
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The ability of young children to distinguish fact from fiction varies considerably with exposure to religion, two new studies have found. Children who did not attend parochial (religious) schools or church were significantly better at identifying characters in religious or fantasy stories as pretend than those who did. The studies have been published in Cognitive Science.

For the investigations, researchers enrolled 5- and 6- year old children and separated them into four groups: children who attend public school and church, children who attend public school but not church, children who attend parochial school and church and children who attend parochial school but not church.

They then exposed the children to three different types of stories- biblical (religious), fantastical (where the divine element was replaced with magic) or realistic (all supernatural elements removed). They then asked the children to judge whether the protagonist (lead character) was fictional or real.

Unsurprisingly, they found that all children judged the protagonist to be a real person in the realistic stories that described ordinary events, irrespective of religious background or schooling. However, when the children were read religious stories, such as Noah’s ark, there were significant differences in judgment. Children exposed to religion, either through school or church, decided that the characters were real, whereas secular children judged them to be fictional.

Furthermore, when the children were read fantastical stories where impossible events were either magical or non-magical (unexplained), the secular children were significantly better than religious children at identifying characters as fictional. They found that children from religious backgrounds would rely on religion in order to justify these incorrect classifications.

In sum, this study suggests that exposure to religion has a profound impact on the ability of children to discern reality from fiction, whether presented with religious ideas or fantasy stories.

The researchers acknowledge that the study design was not perfect. In particular, they recognize that it may not be exposure to religion that is causing these differences, but another variable that was not taken into account in the study. Still, the researchers believe that religion is the most likely contributing factor.

[Via Huffington Post, Cognitive Science, and Patheos]


Read more at http://www.iflscience.com/brain/reli...sJo4jb8FmtL.99
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Old 08-08-2014, 12:21 PM   #3752
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I love, love, love this video. Beautiful and chocked full of information.

This is the expanded version with more images at the end and a 5 minute beginning that is amazing but not related to religion per se. Its worth the watch if you really want to get a good drink of awesome sauce. The evolution of religion starts at about 5 minute mark. Relatively brief but if you ponder it after the video you will understand the overview of how religions mutated over time and why.


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Old 08-13-2014, 09:00 PM   #3753
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:49 PM   #3754
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Old 09-24-2014, 12:39 AM   #3755
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Cornelius Tacitus (c.55-117 AD)

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The years 30 and 31 of Tacitus' account of the reign of Tiberius in the Annals are mysteriously missing. What might those lost chapters have said – or not said – about Jesus? Did Christian scribes have a reason to destroy them?

Christianity has no part in Tacitus's history of the Caesars. Except for one questionable reference in the Annals he records nothing of a cult marginal even in his own day.

Sometime before 117 AD, the Roman historian apparently wrote:

"Nero looked around for a scapegoat, and inflicted the most fiendish tortures on a group of persons already hated for their crimes. This was the sect known as Christians. Their founder, one Christus, had been put to death by the procurator, Pontius Pilate in the reign of Tiberius. This checked the abominable superstition for a while, but it broke out again and spread, not merely through Judea, where it originated, but even to Rome itself, the great reservoir and collecting ground for every kind of depravity and filth. Those who confessed to being Christians were at once arrested, but on their testimony a great crowd of people were convicted, not so much on the charge of arson, but of hatred of the entire human race.

Their deaths were made farcical. Dressed in wild animals' skins , they were torn to pieces by dogs, or crucified, or made into torches to be ignited after dark as substitutes for daylight."

– Tacitus (Book 15, chapter 44):


As we have seen, the term 'Christian' was not in use during the reign of Nero and there would not have been 'a great crowd' unless we are speaking of Jews, not Christians. 'Jewish/Christians' – being perceived by Roman authorities (and the populace at large) simply as Jews meant that early Christ-followers also got caught up in general attacks upon the Jews.

"Their effects to dissemble their Jewish origins were detected by the decisive test of circumcision; nor were the Roman magistrates at leisure to enquire into the difference of their religious tenets."

– Edward Gibbon (Decline and Fall)


One consequence of the fire which destroyed much of Rome in 64 AD was a capitation tax levied on the Jews and it was the Jews – throughout the empire – who were required to pay for the city’s rebuilding – a factor which helped to radicalise many Jews in the late 60s AD.

Not for the first time would Christian scribes expropriated the real suffering of a whole people to create an heroic 'origins' fable...

No Christian apologist for centuries ever quoted the passage of Tacitus – not in fact, until it had appeared almost word-for-word in the writings of Sulpicius Severus, in the early fifth century, where it is mixed in with other myths. Sulpicius's contemporaries credited him with a skill in the 'antique' hand. He put it to good use and fantasy was his forte: his Life of St. Martin is replete with numerous 'miracles', including raising of the dead and personal appearances by Jesus and Satan.

His dastardly story of Nero was embellished during the Renaissance into a fantastic fable with Nero 'fiddling while Rome burned'. Nero took advantage of the destruction to build his 'Golden House' though no serious scholar believes anymore that he started the fire (we now know Nero was in his hometown of Antium – Anzio – when the blaze started.) Indeed, Nero opened his palace garden for temporary shelter to those made homeless.
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:46 AM   #3756
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That Tyson quote seemed unusually combative for him, so I looked it up, and . . .

Hey, he really said that. How 'bout that. In fact, the Hayden Planetarium has a whole page on spirituality quotes. I think they're actually quite interesting, regardless of your own personal views. Here you all go, for your reading pleasure.

http://www.haydenplanetarium.org/tys...tuality-quotes
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Old 09-24-2014, 08:48 AM   #3757
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The researchers acknowledge that the study design was not perfect. In particular, they recognize that it may not be exposure to religion that is causing these differences, but another variable that was not taken into account in the study. Still, the researchers believe that religion is the most likely contributing factor.
In other words, they admit being biased. That's the first step—admitting it.
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That Tyson quote seemed unusually combative for him, so I looked it up, and . . .

Hey, he really said that. How 'bout that. In fact, the Hayden Planetarium has a whole page on spirituality quotes. I think they're actually quite interesting, regardless of your own personal views. Here you all go, for your reading pleasure.

http://www.haydenplanetarium.org/tys...tuality-quotes
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Old 09-24-2014, 02:34 PM   #3759
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I hope that this was translated correctly, and I hope that this man wasn't killed for his ideas:


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I hope that this was translated correctly, and I hope that this man wasn't killed for his ideas:


Wow what a brave brilliant man. He speaks of love and humanity so he must be killed by the right. Like always.
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In 2007, just before taking part in a debate on Nightline, Creationist Kirk Cameron went on The O’Reilly Factor and explained that evolution was nonsense because there were no transitional fossils to be found.
He went on to claim that, if evolution were true, we would see a hybrid between a crocodile and a duck.



[...]

The largest predatory dinosaur ever was 'half-duck, half-crocodile'

According to their reconstruction, published today in Science, Spinosaurus aegyptiacus was a gigantic fish-eating, water-paddling marvel; one that, in Sereno’s words, was “a chimera — half duck, half crocodile.”
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In other words, they admit being biased. That's the first step—admitting it.
They admit the potential for confounding, not bias.
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Wow what a brave brilliant man. He speaks of love and humanity so he must be killed by the right. Like always.
How is that called for in the least? That's just blind reflexive unthinking slander of your own personal bogeyman. Might have been the stupidest thing you've ever posted here, and that's saying something.
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