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Old 08-31-2012, 07:24 PM  
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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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Here's the Kent Hovind Theory:



"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 10-20-2012, 07:57 PM   #646
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Abortion is intentional. How do you know God intends to abortion babies that are miscarried?
because God does everything, right?
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:01 PM   #647
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because God does everything, right?
Not that I know of.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:02 PM   #648
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Not that I know of.
yes, I forgot he only gets credit for the good things.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:04 PM   #649
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yes, I forgot he only gets credit for the good things.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:13 PM   #650
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yes, I forgot he only gets credit for the good things.
Well, I just don't think it's fair to presume he finagles around with females' reproductive systems after the child has been conceived.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:32 PM   #651
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Well, I just don't think it's fair to presume he finagles around with females' reproductive systems after the child has been conceived.
Then why do people say "God created you?"
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:35 PM   #652
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Then why do people say "God created you?"
I don't know. Maybe they're referring to a belief in a person's soul -- their essence beyond their physical material makeup.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:44 PM   #653
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I don't know. Maybe they're referring to a belief in a person's soul -- their essence beyond their physical material makeup.
that essence is called, "the brain"
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:50 PM   #654
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that essence is called, "the brain"
No, the brain is definitely a physical, material thing. It's something you can see and even hold. It's made up of tissue and nerve cells, and it forms after conception.

If there is a spiritual essence to a human, it's not the brain.
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:27 PM   #655
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you're stuck in the moment...and you didn't answer my question....

...it doesn't bother me that you don't believe, yet it bothers you that I do..honestly, why is that?

...does God tell people today to murder?....does allah tell Muslims to murder today? there's the difference...let's not pretend that cultures and races weren't wiped out during those times. muslims today want to wipe Jews off the map, just like others before them.
What you believe doesn't bother me.

I'm simply making the argument that every word in the Old Testament can't possibly be true. If every word were true, that would mean that God is an extremely vengeful and violent deity who orders his followers to do truly evil things. I think most people would reject the idea of that type of God (especially since it's in direct conflict with the God of the New Testament), and therefore must consider the idea that the Old Testament is apocryphal.
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:31 PM   #656
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No, the brain is definitely a physical, material thing. It's something you can see and even hold. It's made up of tissue and nerve cells, and it forms after conception.

If there is a spiritual essence to a human, it's not the brain.
lol ok
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Old 10-20-2012, 09:51 PM   #657
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What you believe doesn't bother me.

I'm simply making the argument that every word in the Old Testament can't possibly be true. If every word were true, that would mean that God is an extremely vengeful and violent deity who orders his followers to do truly evil things. I think most people would reject the idea of that type of God (especially since it's in direct conflict with the God of the New Testament), and therefore must consider the idea that the Old Testament is apocryphal.
it sounds like you only want the "side" of God YOU approve of...you can't separate the OT and NT to your liking, they are intertwined...this what many churches today do..touchy feely..all milk and no meat...it's callled the apostasy

I think this line of thought comes from the fact that people don't want to acknowledge the accountability and the wrath of God.

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That doesn't bother you?
this is why I asked the question...
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Old 10-20-2012, 10:05 PM   #659
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you can't separate the OT and NT to your liking, they are intertwined...
Who says it's to our liking? And by adhering to a strictly literal interpretation of the Old Testament, aren't you fashioning the Scriptures into your own liking, and ignoring the deeper and fuller meaning of the Scriptures?
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Old 10-20-2012, 10:15 PM   #660
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And stevieray, will you admit that you use multiple interpretations in your own reading of the Old Testament? For instance, you would acknowledge that you take the Jonah in the fish story literally, correct? And you would acknowledge that you take it as a metaphor that Psalm 91 says that God has feathers and wings, correct? You would then be engaging in Originalist interpretation; that is, "Did the author of this passage actually intend for it to be literal?" Yet, you have mentioned before that you believe Jesus is mentioned in every book of the Bible. However, there is no rational reason to believe that this is so; rather, you have imputed that mentioning into the author's words. It's not what the author actually intended, but you impute it on them because of your understanding of the Scriptures.
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