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Old 08-31-2012, 07:24 PM  
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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 12-20-2012, 09:24 AM   #1291
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Is this a trick question? Seems fairly straightforward.
From Psalms

9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones Against the rock.
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:28 AM   #1292
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He is GOD he can do as he pleases. Aborter of unborn children? Link?
Some people call them miscarriages I call them gods abortions. Since by your belief is he controls everything he is responsible for these miscarriages.
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:37 AM   #1293
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High Tech is Sorcery and the people who are really powerful are literally telling people to commit crimes using the psychic interspace created by the WWW and Wireless. They are controlling peoples actions like drones . The two things are deeply intertwined. The more man's brain interfaces with machines the creepier it gets. They use brains separate from a human body in a supercomputer and you have The Image of the Beast. The military has been doing this since the 50s
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:47 AM   #1294
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Was it God's will?

God's will is hard to understand but as I look at it there are a couple of ways to talk about God's will:

One we can call God’s will of decree (or his sovereign will) and the other we can call God’s will of command. His will of decree always comes to pass whether we believe in it or not. His will of command can be broken, and is every day. God allows his will of command to be broken but there is a price to pay for doing that. His allowing is not permission to do wrong. In Sodom and Gormora (sp) the punishment for people who broke God's will of command were punished (killed) and city destryoed. Sodom was a city of complete moral corruptness.

Not sure if that answers the question but it is how I understand it and try to apply it.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:50 AM   #1295
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:00 AM   #1296
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Why people laugh at Creationists? Intolerance.
No one is intolerant of them. We just think they are stupid.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:14 AM   #1297
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God's will is hard to understand but as I look at it there are a couple of ways to talk about God's will:

One we can call Godís will of decree (or his sovereign will) and the other we can call Godís will of command. His will of decree always comes to pass whether we believe in it or not. His will of command can be broken, and is every day. God allows his will of command to be broken but there is a price to pay for doing that. His allowing is not permission to do wrong. In Sodom and Gormora (sp) the punishment for people who broke God's will of command were punished (killed) and city destryoed. Sodom was a city of complete moral corruptness.

Not sure if that answers the question but it is how I understand it and try to apply it.
That is an interesting take, thank you for taking the time to articulate it so clearly.
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Why people laugh at Creationists? Intolerance.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:20 AM   #1299
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God's will is hard to understand but as I look at it there are a couple of ways to talk about God's will:

One we can call God’s will of decree (or his sovereign will) and the other we can call God’s will of command. His will of decree always comes to pass whether we believe in it or not. His will of command can be broken, and is every day. God allows his will of command to be broken but there is a price to pay for doing that. His allowing is not permission to do wrong. In Sodom and Gormora (sp) the punishment for people who broke God's will of command were punished (killed) and city destryoed. Sodom was a city of complete moral corruptness.

Not sure if that answers the question but it is how I understand it and try to apply it.
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How does this apply to god the abortionist?
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:24 AM   #1300
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How does this apply to god the abortionist?
From his description, I think the abortions in Hosea would have to be considered God's will.
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From his description, I think the abortions in Hosea would have to be considered God's will.
In the commanded will sense I think. God's judgement on people for violating his commanded will (which he allows but does not allow it as justification for what a person does).

I am not an expert on this stuff, but I try to understand the what and the whys of things and I hope my feeble explantions don't create mis-understndings.

The most important for me is that God sent his Son to die so that man can be saved and that through Christ is the only way man can enter Heaven.

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That is an interesting take, thank you for taking the time to articulate it so clearly.
Not only interesting, but accurate.
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No one is intolerant of them. We just think they are stupid.
Ironic that you would say that in the way that you say it.

So people that believe creation is stupid? How so. Were you there to validate the lack of creation?

Why is it that you feel creation did not happen as stated in the bible? Also, there is only theory regarding evolution of man. Do you believe that the men that received the inspired word of God to write the bible were stupid? Think about one thing, if the bible is so wrong, why has it lasted the number of years that it has? Ever study the Hebrew and Greek versions?
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In the commanded will sense I think. God's judgement on people for violating his commanded will (which he allows but does not allow it as justification for what a person does).

I am not an expert on this stuff, but I try to understand the what and the whys of things and I hope my feeble explantions don't create mis-understndings.

The most important for me is that God sent his Son to die so that man can be saved and that through Christ is the only way man can enter Heaven.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Oh no, I think you explained it quite well. Dave Lane doesn't think the way that you do or agree with your belief system. No biggie, I don't either, but that doesn't mean we have to have a holy war on here every time we have a difference of opinion. I am more concerned with trying to understand the thought processes of someone who thinks in a radically different way than I do. So thanks for the insight and happy holidays. Peace.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:52 PM   #1305
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Oh no, I think you explained it quite well. Dave Lane doesn't think the way that you do or agree with your belief system. No biggie, I don't either, but that doesn't mean we have to have a holy war on here every time we have a difference of opinion. I am more concerned with trying to understand the thought processes of someone who thinks in a radically different way than I do. So thanks for the insight and happy holidays. Peace.
At least you don't seem to be offended by a God that you don't believe in. Some of the other people around here go way overboard trying to sustain an argument about something outside of their belief. I have never understood how someone that doesn't believe in God has so much of a problem with people that do. I've always wondered if they are secretly looking for someone that can explain God to them so they can justify belief. Maybe God has too many rules? If that's the case they should really hate the USA, almost every commandment (10 in number) is covered by the US Code and plus many more that are not covered by God's 10.
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