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Old 08-31-2012, 06:24 PM  
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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 12-20-2012, 06:49 PM   #1336
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Saying you don't agree with it doesn't really nail down your proof. Just that you don't want to believe it doesn't cut it either. This country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Read the letters of the founding fathers. Even those that were not necessarily Christian felt it was better to have those values included than not.
No, it wasn't. And it has nothing to do with what I believe. Read the letter of the founding father that I just linked in this thread. And then continue to read other documents, including that famous Danbury letter and the Treaty of Tripoli. It's all there. Or just read the Constitution. It's fairly straightforward on this issue.
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Old 12-20-2012, 06:55 PM   #1337
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you never know...

being disconnected from reality allows for some pretty contradictory thinking...

i wouldn't be surprised to find that he did believe in god in his own twisted way...

maybe he thought he was sending those kids to god...

even mothers who have killed their kids have thought that...

one should never underestimate the capacity of the insane for believing insane things...

(deep, huh? )
Sure, god can be used for bad as well as good. When it is used as a compassionate moral compass though it really is stupid to laugh at.
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:09 PM   #1338
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Sure, god can be used for bad as well as good. When it is used as a compassionate moral compass though it really is stupid to laugh at.
What about your own compassionate moral compass? Its one of the things I really dislike about religion, it takes the onus off of the person and gives it to a god.

There is very very little that is moral in the bible. A package of Captain Crunch may have greater morality on the back of the package.

You have greater morality than your god.
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:20 PM   #1339
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What about your own compassionate moral compass? Its one of the things I really dislike about religion, it takes the onus off of the person and gives it to a god.

There is very very little that is moral in the bible. A package of Captain Crunch may have greater morality on the back of the package.

You have greater morality than your god.
You seem to be making a blanket statement with this thread about people who believe in god. Is that right?

I don't believe stories in the bible but still believe in some sort of creator. Are you laughing at me too?
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:32 PM   #1340
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What about your own compassionate moral compass? Its one of the things I really dislike about religion, it takes the onus off of the person and gives it to a god.

There is very very little that is moral in the bible. A package of Captain Crunch may have greater morality on the back of the package.

You have greater morality than your god.
You know, for a second I read that as Christian Crunch. I need to go to bed. Good night all.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:03 PM   #1341
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actually, our founding fathers intended to keep religion out of politics. Did your preacher tell you that? The early presidents and patriots were generally Deists or Unitarians, believing in some form of impersonal Providence but rejecting the divinity of Jesus and the absurdities of the Old and New testaments.
Bump, you need to read the Constitution. The basics are that the nation would not be on that the government dictated what religion that you would subscribe to, as in The Church of England. We, as Americans are free to choose what religion we decide is good for ourselves. You must read different documents than I've seen. Generally your statement is incorrect, but if that's how you want to frame your life then more power to you. The Constitutions studies that I did in college do not point out the basic belief that you seem to have.

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Old 12-20-2012, 09:20 PM   #1342
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Bump, you need to read the Constitution. The basics are that the nation would not be on that the government dictated what religion that you would subscribe to, as in The Church of England. We, as Americans are free to choose what religion we decide is good for ourselves. You must read different documents than I've seen. Generally your statement is incorrect, but if that's how you want to frame your life then more power to you. The Constitutions studies that I did in college do not point out the basic belief that you seem to have.

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Old 12-20-2012, 10:18 PM   #1343
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You know, for a second I read that as Christian Crunch. I need to go to bed. Good night all.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:22 PM   #1344
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Why should I have to keep my beliefs out of school? Does prayer offend you?
Because school is for education.

Religion is NOT education.

That is what church is for.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:44 PM   #1345
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Because school is for education.

Religion is NOT education.

That is what church is for.
You should be able to pray anywhere, my tax dollars pay for it so I should have a say. Church is the last place I would pray.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:45 PM   #1346
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I don't care if you pray. You see, here in Kansas, we have a BOE that wants to teach creationism next to science. That's who I'm talking about when I say to keep it out of schools.
Creationism/Big Bang/Gigantic globulous mushroom of doom/Evolution

All are religions..ban one, ban them all!
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:47 PM   #1347
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You should be able to pray anywhere, my tax dollars pay for it so I should have a say.
students can pray in school, teachers and staff just can't lead it or require it.

But after this shooting, I've seen so many people say stuff like "this wouldn't happen if you didn't take god out of school and this is god's way of showing us how unhappy he is" and that makes me say, **** god.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:48 PM   #1348
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students can pray in school, teachers and staff just can't lead it or require it.

But after this shooting, I've seen so many people say stuff like "this wouldn't happen if you didn't take god out of school and this is god's way of showing us how unhappy he is" and that makes me say, **** god.
You can say it, but in your case wouldn't that be like saying F*** yourself? like F*** me?
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:49 PM   #1349
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You should be able to pray anywhere, my tax dollars pay for it so I should have a millsay.
You can. Who is stopping you?

As for schools, millions of kids probably take tests every day. A lots of them are probably saying little prayers beforehand.
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You can say it, but in your case wouldn't that be like saying F*** yourself? like F*** me?
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