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Old 09-03-2012, 01:26 PM  
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I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already.

Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn.

I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week.

Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards.

Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards.

The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills.

Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily.

The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together.

Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players.

3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down.

3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down.

3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured.

Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD.

That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them.

I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:20 PM   #211
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Quinn brings a few things to the table that Cassel doesn't have, a strong arm for one. I don't think that we've seen enough of him to really know what he brings to the table here in KC. There are glimpses in his work that lead one to understand why he has not thrown a pass in three years in a regular game. He is not a very accurate QB for one.

I am not buying into the resurrecting a career to make them a starter in KC path again. If Pioli is trying to put the perfect team around KC, he is never going to get there. It will never be enough for Cassel. No team in today's NFL can be without flaw with a cap.

If Cassel fails, Quinn might be a future starting QB for the Chiefs. He is not the QBotF.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:33 PM   #212
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I'm a Quinn supporter but with CoMo's track record just made it happen.

Just another stupid example how people around here will take ANYONE over Matt Cassel, regardless if that QB has no business starting in the NFL (Quinn, Stanzi, Tanney, Palko, Croyle, Thigpen).

Orton is the only one that was somewhat worth a shit, and he's a clown in his own right. He's no worse or better than Cassel really, but he doesn't cost as much as Cassel. He didn't want to be here anyways, he'd rather backup Romo in Dallas.

The fact that people are pimping Quinn....or some are even saying that Tanney is some giant secret we're keeping from the rest of the league...like he's going to be the next Tom Brady.

This shit has become comedy gold.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:48 PM   #213
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Quinn brings a few things to the table that Cassel doesn't have, a strong arm for one. I don't think that we've seen enough of him to really know what he brings to the table here in KC. There are glimpses in his work that lead one to understand why he has not thrown a pass in three years in a regular game. He is not a very accurate QB for one.

I am not buying into the resurrecting a career to make them a starter in KC path again. If Pioli is trying to put the perfect team around KC, he is never going to get there. It will never be enough for Cassel. No team in today's NFL can be without flaw with a cap.

If Cassel fails, Quinn might be a future starting QB for the Chiefs. He is not the QBotF.
Like I said.....I'm not expecting Quinn to be the QBoTF. I think he can hold the position down for at least another year....so long as we draft a QB next year. He'd be a cheaper option as well.
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:02 PM   #214
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. And honestly....since Hasselbeck....he hasn't developed shit at QB.
Maybe that's because he's not coaching dumbass. GM's don't develop players. Go back and read my post. He had no faith in Quinn so he signed Delhomme. An old ass QB who could run an offense. He was desperate.

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Like I said.....I'm not expecting Quinn to be the QBoTF. I think he can hold the position down for at least another year....so long as we draft a QB next year. He'd be a cheaper option as well.
What position? #2 QB?

It's going to be funny when Cassel has a good year. Some of you will still hate him but it will be funny when we keep passing on QBs next year in the draft.

He's going to have a good year.
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:03 PM   #215
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Just another stupid example how people around here will take ANYONE over Matt Cassel, regardless if that QB has no business starting in the NFL (Quinn, Stanzi, Tanney, Palko, Croyle, Thigpen).

Orton is the only one that was somewhat worth a shit, and he's a clown in his own right. He's no worse or better than Cassel really, but he doesn't cost as much as Cassel. He didn't want to be here anyways, he'd rather backup Romo in Dallas.

The fact that people are pimping Quinn....or some are even saying that Tanney is some giant secret we're keeping from the rest of the league...like he's going to be the next Tom Brady.

This shit has become comedy gold.
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Maybe that's because he's not coaching dumbass. GM's don't develop players. Go back and read my post. He had no faith in Quinn so he signed Delhomme. An old ass QB who could run an offense. He was desperate.



What position? #2 QB?

It's going to be funny when Cassel has a good year. Some of you will still hate him but it will be funny when we keep passing on QBs next year in the draft.

He's going to have a good year.
So let me ask you this......stat wise.....what is a good year for Cassel?
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:09 PM   #217
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So let me ask you this......stat wise.....what is a good year for Cassel?

10 wins and a playoff win. That's all I care about. It's not fantasy football. Wins are all that matters.

If he doesn't do it, then he needs to gt the **** out. This is the best hand he's been dealt. Good o-line, good RBs, good receivers and TEs. Most of all the playbook has been taylored to his skill set to make him comfortable and he can change the plays. No more excuses. There will be nothing left to doubt after this year. Even if he gets hurt on the first play and misses the season. This is it for Cassel.
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:13 PM   #218
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10 wins and a playoff win. That's all I care about. It's not fantasy football. Wins are all that matters.

If he doesn't do it, then he needs to gt the **** out. This is the best hand he's been dealt. Good o-line, good RBs, good receivers and TEs. Most of all the playbook has been taylored to his skill set to make him comfortable and he can change the plays. No more excuses. There will be nothing left to doubt after this year. Even if he gets hurt on the first play and misses the season. This is it for Cassel.
So say for instance.....this team wins 10 games and then throws in a playoff win....but this team wins IN SPITE of Cassel.....you'd be happy with him coming back?

Say......he has 20 TDs and 22 INTs but this defense some how finds a way to win 10 games in spite of him....you'd still keep him?
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:40 PM   #219
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It doesn't really matter what cassel does this year. Can you win a Super Bowl with the guy at qb?
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So say for instance.....this team wins 10 games and then throws in a playoff win....but this team wins IN SPITE of Cassel.....you'd be happy with him coming back?

Say......he has 20 TDs and 22 INTs but this defense some how finds a way to win 10 games in spite of him....you'd still keep him?
Yep, I probably would. We haven't won a playoff game in a long time. However, I don't think there is any way he throws 20 TDs and 22 Ints and wins a playoff game. It's highly unlikely. But, if it did go this way, I would want to bring in competition. I wouldn't want to kick him to the curb but I would bring in someone to compete.

You have to be careful. Baltimore brought in a QB with better mechanics after they won the Superbowl. They let Dilfer go for Grbac. It was a mistake.

Winning in the playoffs is hard. If you have a QB who wins in the playoffs, you keep him around.

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It doesn't really matter what cassel does this year. Can you win a Super Bowl with the guy at qb?
I felt that way about Haley as HC. Cassel would have to really get better at being clutch for me to say he could win a Superbowl. Pioli believes he can. I know that much... We haven't had a shot at a realistic option. Maybe we could have drafted Dalton but we just came off a 10 win season. I don't think we will keep him as the starter without competition if he wins 10 games and doesn't win a playoff game.
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Can we put the "he won in the playoffs" shit to bed as a way to judge a qb. Tim tebow and
Mark Sanchez won playoff games. Use your eyes
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Can we put the "he won in the playoffs" shit to bed as a way to judge a qb. Tim tebow and
Mark Sanchez won playoff games. Use your eyes
Until we win a playoff game, no, I cannot. That's the goal every year until we do it. Don't even say the word Superbowl.
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So say for instance.....this team wins 10 games and then throws in a playoff win....but this team wins IN SPITE of Cassel.....you'd be happy with him coming back?

Say......he has 20 TDs and 22 INTs but this defense some how finds a way to win 10 games in spite of him....you'd still keep him?
Well, if say Cassel threw .9 of those 20 TDs per win and 1.4 of those picks per loss then he'd grade out perfectly.
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Can we put the "he won in the playoffs" shit to bed as a way to judge a qb. Tim tebow and
Mark Sanchez won playoff games. Use your eyes
Both of them actually made plays to win playoff games.
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Until we win a playoff game, no, I cannot. That's the goal every year until we do it. Don't even say the word Superbowl.
Hey dipshit.....Superbowl is ALWAYS the ****ing goal. ALWAYS.
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