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Old 09-03-2012, 07:33 PM  
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:08 AM   #61
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Show me ONE citizen who is going to do their civic duty and vote in this year's fall election and doesn't have a valid ID. ONE. Then I'll get bend out of shape. My guess is those who don't carry a vaild ID don't rank voting as high on their list of citizen priorities.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:15 AM   #62
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This page while not the best evidence doesn't say you need to provide ID to purchase a rifle. http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbys...gunlaws_az.htm

Then there's this: http://www.flyingpenguin.com/?p=9680
The guy asks for 'not a California ID' Seems to me, the seller is more worried about where you're from than who you are.

And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPgr_tw79Q

Then there's this:
http://www.ammoland.com/2010/02/24/a...#axzz25Vn3FcET

http://immigrationbuzz.com/?p=3617

Looks like the pro-gun lobby derailed a law that would have made it a felony to sell a gun to an illegal alien. I thought conservatives were all about stricter laws regarding illegals aliens?
Itís obvious you didnít bother to actually read the links you posted because none of them show how it is legal to sell a firearm at a gun show without seeing ID. In fact itís quite the opposite stating multiple times that such a sale is illegal.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:16 AM   #63
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Show me ONE citizen who is going to do their civic duty and vote in this year's fall election and doesn't have a valid ID. ONE. Then I'll get bend out of shape. My guess is those who don't carry a vaild ID don't rank voting as high on their list of citizen priorities.
I doubt those people get their kicks by committing voter fraud either. It's already been projected that millions of people can be blocked if these laws hold. That's more than one.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:21 AM   #64
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It’s obvious you didn’t bother to actually read the links you posted because none of them show how it is legal to sell a firearm at a gun show without seeing ID. In fact it’s quite the opposite stating multiple times that such a sale is illegal.
Where do they say it's illegal?
How did that guy walk out of a Virginia gun show with a gun without showing ID?
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:23 AM   #65
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Show me ONE citizen who is going to do their civic duty and vote in this year's fall election and doesn't have a valid ID. ONE. Then I'll get bend out of shape. My guess is those who don't carry a vaild ID don't rank voting as high on their list of citizen priorities.
Who gives a shit about how you perceive how high they rank it? It's a right and shouldn't be undermined.

Furthermore, I don't get how your premise of he doesn't carry an id supports the conclusion that voting isn't a high priority.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:25 AM   #66
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Where do they say it's illegal?
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How did that guy walk out of a Virginia gun show with a gun without showing ID?
Prove it was a legal sale.
Not getting caught ≠ legal.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:25 AM   #67
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I guess not.


"The court noted the Obama administration has approved Georgia's version of a voter-ID law because that one will issue free identification cards to voters."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...913133538.html
Yep. The Democrat Party already have the printers to turn out as many voter ID cards as they need anyway.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:32 AM   #68
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Yep. The Democrat Party already have the printers to turn out as many voter ID cards as they need anyway.
So basically what you are saying is that no matter what they do, you'll accuse them of fraud. Awesome, nice to know.

By the way GA is a red state.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:33 AM   #69
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Prove it was a legal sale.
Not getting caught ≠ legal.
Prove it was an illegal sale. And sorry I misspoke, that was Ohio not Virgina.

I think in a lot of laid back private sale states, the only thing that's illegal is if you sell to someone that can't legally own. It's not the failure to check ID that's illegal.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:46 AM   #70
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If you can't see the difference between voting and a convention where there are security concerns, then you are a dumbass
Why do you need to personally identify people coming in? You search them, and finding them unarmed, let them in.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:00 AM   #72
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Prove it was an illegal sale. And sorry I misspoke, that was Ohio not Virgina.

I think in a lot of laid back private sale states, the only thing that's illegal is if you sell to someone that can't legally own. It's not the failure to check ID that's illegal.
How can one prove they can legally own without showing ID?
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:07 AM   #73
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Here Chiefer, the ATF makes it really simple.

http://www.atf.gov/training/firearms...swf/toon1.html
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:14 AM   #75
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Gun shows.

http://www.atf.gov/training/firearms...swf/toon8.html

Link to ATF's "learning theater" where I got these videos.

http://www.atf.gov/training/firearms...rning-theater/
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