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Old 09-11-2012, 01:11 PM  
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Protesters storm U.S. Embassy in Cairo

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/11/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1

I suppose it's a good thing that "it doesn't have to be a good thing for us"....

Cairo (CNN) -- Angry protesters climbed the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo on Tuesday and hauled down the American flag, replacing it with a black standard with Islamic emblems, apparently in protest of the production of a film thought to insult the Prophet Mohammed.

The incident prompted a volley of warning shots to be fired as a large crowd gathered outside, said CNN producer Mohammed Fahmy, who was on the scene.

The replacement flag read, "There is no God but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger."

Others expressed more general grievances about U.S. policy, chanting anti-American slogans and holding up bits of a shredded American flag to television camera crews in front of the embassy.

An embassy operator told CNN that the facility had been cleared of diplomatic personnel earlier Tuesday, ahead of the apparent threat, while Egyptian riot police were called to help secure the area.

The U.S. Embassy said in a statement Tuesday that it "condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions."

"Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy," the statement said. "We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others."

The incident occurred on the 11th anniversary of the September 11 attacks in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania, as crowds gathered in somber remembrance of the nearly 3,000 people killed that day.

It is not clear which film upset the protesters in Cairo.

In 2008, an anti-Muslim and anti-immigration parliamentarian from The Netherlands sparked international outcry when he produced a film that portrayed Islam as a violent religion.

Geert Wilders' film "Fitna," which he released online, featured images of terrorist acts superimposed over verses from the Quran.
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:04 PM   #181
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Nope, it came out before everything.

The diplomats in Egypt were getting nervous about a potential riot, and basically fearing for their own lives, they tweeted something out trying to condemn the movie and satisfy the restless natives.

Romney completely, utterly F'd this one up, which OK fine he could backtrack and say "oops, I didn't have all the facts", but now he's doubling down on stupid.
In the meantime, the Islamic world burns with their appreciation and love of Obama's America.
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:06 PM   #182
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Yes, as a matter of fact they were. The short skirt analogy is idiotic though.
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:13 PM   #183
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I thought the apology came out after the Egyptian attack, but before the Libyan one. I could be wrong though.

That's what I'm seeing being reported...Then the WH stated "It wasn't an authorized statement".....
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:14 PM   #184
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Here's the timeline.

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This is important. Apparently it goes like this.

First, the embassy in Cairo--not the White House, not Foggy Bottom, but the embassy--released its statement denouncing (not by name) the makers of the inflammatory film about Mohammed. That was around noon local time Tuesday.

Then the attacks happened.


Then, last night, came Romney's statement criticizing the Obama administration for its allegedly "disgraceful..first response" being "to sympathize with those who waged the attacks."

But: the attack hadn't happened! That first embassy statement was apparently issued because word was circulating about possible violence, and the embassy was trying to quell it.

Then the Obama administration distanced itself from the original embassy statement, and then Romney issued last night's statement.

So here's Romney now, at 10:18 am, now that he must surely know this chronology, still defending his statement from last night and criticizing Obama for defending the attackers. He is continuing to say that the original statement came "after the breach." So he's accusing the embassy and State and the administration of lying. And, by the by, he is criticizing US embassy officials who were under attack.

If he is factually wrong about the first statement happening "after the breach," then this press conference, mark my words, will go down in history as a textbook disaster. Chuck Dodd is being professional but clearly can't believe what we just saw. Amazing, with four people dead, and two not even yet named publicly, that Romney would do this.

This is his meltdown moment, like McCain suspending his campaign. As someone just tweeted: "I mean, seriously. Mitt Romney's first statement after an ambassador was killed was to attack the President over tweets?"
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...st+Articles%29
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:16 PM   #185
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:05 PM   #186
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Here's the timeline.
Now that Romney points out how absurd the statement was, the administration seems to have changed it's tune.
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:14 PM   #187
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Romney hit the nail on the head

"It's a terrible course for America to stand in apology for our values," Romney told reporters. "It's never too early for the U.S. government to condemn attacks on Americans and defend our values. ... When our grounds are being attacked, being breached, the first response of the United States must be outrage."
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:21 PM   #188
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Romney hit the nail on the head

"It's a terrible course for America to stand in apology for our values," Romney told reporters. "It's never too early for the U.S. government to condemn attacks on Americans and defend our values. ... When our grounds are being attacked, being breached, the first response of the United States must be outrage."
Romney hit his stupid thumb.

As early as this morning when he put up this follow-up pile of idiocy, he STILL had his facts wrong. The grounds WERE NOT "being attacked, being breached" when the Embassy sent out their first tweet.
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:22 PM   #189
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Now that Romney points out how absurd the statement was, the administration seems to have changed it's tune.
The statement was not, at all, absurd.
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:23 PM   #190
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The news just said the brother of Zawahri was at the protest at the American Embassy in Cairo on Tuesday.
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:24 PM   #191
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Hey! Look, the liberals are calling Romney misguided and foolish and a complete idiot, while the conservatives are saying he bravely voiced the beliefs of the righteous.

What a shock.
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:26 PM   #192
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the protest was just a cover for this group of muslims to celebrate the 9-11 anniversary according to the news.
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:30 PM   #193
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Romney hit the nail on the head

"It's a terrible course for America to stand in apology for our values," Romney told reporters. "It's never too early for the U.S. government to condemn attacks on Americans and defend our values. ... When our grounds are being attacked, being breached, the first response of the United States must be outrage."
Do you not understand that the embassy statement (the so-called apology or sympathizing with the attackers) was done BEFORE the attacks? BEFORE.
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:34 PM   #194
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Do you not understand that the embassy statement (the so-called apology or sympathizing with the attackers) was done BEFORE the attacks? BEFORE.
That makes it worse you jobless tool

now we apologize just in case

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Old 09-12-2012, 02:34 PM   #195
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Do you not understand that the embassy statement (the so-called apology or sympathizing with the attackers) was done BEFORE the attacks? BEFORE.
No. Weird, libs just see the statement as them just trying not to get attacked. And how did that work out? Republicans see it as something this admin has done since taking office.
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