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Old 09-12-2012, 06:33 AM  
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US Ambassador in Libya Killed

Crazy times, they said this too in relation with the Cairo uprisal has to do with an American Israeli who made a movie that was anti-muslim. Apparently in was only shown in one hole in the wall movie theatre in Cali, but it hit Youtube hard.

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Old 09-13-2012, 10:40 PM   #211
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PAPER: U.S. WARNED OF EMBASSY ATTACK BUT DID NOTHING

The killings of the US ambassador to Libya and three of his staff were likely to have been the result of a serious and continuing security breach, The Independent can reveal.

American officials believe the attack was planned, but Chris Stevens had been back in the country only a short while and the details of his visit to Benghazi, where he and his staff died, were meant to be confidential.

The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the "safe house" in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed "safe".

Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.

According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

Mr Stevens had been on a visit to Germany, Austria and Sweden and had just returned to Libya when the Benghazi trip took place with the US embassy's security staff deciding that the trip could be undertaken safely.

Eight Americans, some from the military, were.....

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Old 09-13-2012, 10:42 PM   #212
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Agreed, K-Clown is a good guy. He just can't admit the middle east penchant for buggery.
Oh it's definitely not a place i want to visit, i just think we create a lot of the problems over there by placing our puppets in charge who treat their people brutally.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:44 PM   #213
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I don't. But I lived in the ME, and have family in the Army over there now, and it is just something that is pretty well known. There have been articles like the one I posted exposing it.

The point is though, if a movie is made depicting Muhammed laying down with a little boy, while it may be extremly disgusting to us, it is something that many who have been over there can confirm does still take place in many areas, and seems to be a part of their culture that isn't as taboo as it should be.

*I am not saying it is everywhere in the ME, or accepted everywhere; Just more than you would think*
I'm not going to defend Islam as it's obviously part of the False prophet paradigm, I've heard Mo had girls as young as 13 as wives. They certainly have a different culture, one that i'm not interested in particularly but i can't hate them as they are headed for hell and can't see it.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:44 PM   #214
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Oh it's definitely not a place i want to visit, i just think we create a lot of the problems over there by placing our puppets in charge who treat their people brutally.
Let's be clear on this. For years we supported military dictators who controlled the people. Now we "support" the people by letting the religious dictators take control of them.

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Old 09-13-2012, 10:45 PM   #215
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I'm not going to defend Islam as it's obviously part of the False prophet paradigm, I've heard Mo had girls as young as 13 as wives. They certainly have a different culture, one that i'm not interested in particularly but i can't hate them as they are headed for hell and can't see it.
Be careful not to confuse Islam with Arab culture. A number of these issues are more endemic to current Arab culture not necessarily Islam.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:47 PM   #216
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Be careful not to confuse Islam with Arab culture. A number of these issues are more endemic to current Arab culture not necessarily Islam.
Someone near and dear to me is Islamic and she's the sweetest woman i've ever met, but she's still headed for the dark regions and it hurts my heart. I'm still working on her and she has yet to try and take my life.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:59 PM   #217
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Oh it's definitely not a place i want to visit, i just think we create a lot of the problems over there by placing our puppets in charge who treat their people brutally.
Gacy, that's a real convenient strategy.

So if you were in charge of the USA, you would isolate every single nation that is run by a dictator? You wouldn't have any relations, wether militarily, economically etc, whatsoever?
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:08 PM   #218
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I'm not going to defend Islam as it's obviously part of the False prophet paradigm, I've heard Mo had girls as young as 13 as wives. They certainly have a different culture, one that i'm not interested in particularly but i can't hate them as they are headed for hell and can't see it.
Having wives that young was not uncommon—not even in the West in the past. Even during the Renaissance, men around age 40 married girls as young as twelve. They could have all kinds of fun before they started ovulating.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:12 PM   #220
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Gacy, that's a real convenient strategy.

So if you were in charge of the USA, you would isolate every single nation that is run by a dictator? You wouldn't have any relations, wether militarily, economically etc, whatsoever?
We could actually practice what we preach and let them have fair elections rather than being the hidden hand everywhere. I wouldn't have any military relations heavens no, especially if they are very different culture wise to what we are. If they want to trade, fine we could sure use cheap oil.
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Having wives that young was no uncommon—not even in the West in the past. Even during the Renaissance, men around age 40 married girls as young as twelve. They could have all kinds of fun before they started ovulating.
That's a fair point.
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That's a fair point.
Even with the typo?
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Even with the typo?
Lolz, i know what you meant...even read it the correct way.
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We could actually practice what we preach and let them have fair elections rather than being the hidden hand everywhere. I wouldn't have any military relations heavens no, especially if they are very different culture wise to what we are. If they want to trade, fine we could sure use cheap oil.
OK, so we should could off all ties with China?
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OK, so we should could off all ties with China?
Our relationship certainly hasn't done us any favors.
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