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Old 09-16-2012, 08:00 PM  
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Romeo's defensive scheme has got to go...

It's old, it's soft and it doesn't work anymore. Did you see the Bills getting pressure up the middle? Might that have something to do with them actually trying to get pressure instead of just "eating up blockers"?

We keep hearing it's the job of our d-line to consume blockers so the LB's can be free. Free to do what? I am a fan of the 3-4 but not this style of the 3-4. We are never going to get consistent pressure on a QB at all. Teams take Hali out of the game and their QB has all day to sit back.

Meanwhile our "free" LB's are getting toasted over the middle or just plain leaving it wide open.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:04 PM   #2
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I was saying this last week. This scheme is terrible.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:05 PM   #3
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Not till after the first round of the draft next year. If we do that we will have to draft more 1st round D-Linemen to fit our scheme.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:05 PM   #4
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Phillips 3-4 would suit this team much better. Our entire DL is full of former penetrating lineman. And now we ask them to eat up space. Not working.

DJ wouldn't fit in that system as well, but his soft ass could learn.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:06 PM   #5
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I said Crennel would be less fondly remembered than Herm by the time he was fired here months ago.

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Clay was right. Not that I necessarily doubted him. But it's happening quicker than I imagined.
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****, it's happening quicker THAN I IMAGINED.

This isn't even fun.

I might as well offer Beach Tribe a plea bargain at this rate.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:09 PM   #8
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The scheme looked just fine at the end of last year.

It's not scheme. It's not talent. It's that our players are soft and unconditioned and poorly coached and coordinated.

If you added a disciplinary coach and moved Romeo back to a coordinator role, I can bet you this defense would be much, much better.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:11 PM   #9
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He just needs to have a private meeting with his defensive coordinator and slap him around a bit. BTW: his nickname for his DC is "Chocolate Gunther."
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:11 PM   #10
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:11 PM   #11
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The scheme looked just fine at the end of last year.

It's not scheme. It's not talent. It's that our players are soft and unconditioned and poorly coached and coordinated.

If you added a disciplinary coach and moved Romeo back to a coordinator role, I can bet you this defense would be much, much better.
No Sir. It did ok last year when we started to blitz a lot. A 3-4 cannot sit back in coverage with only pressure coming off the edges. The D-line has to try and get penetration and we have to start blitzing the MLB's and not Berry all the ****ing time.

You look at the 3-4 we ran under Marty. THAT'S what I am talking about. Neil Smith was not asked to simply eat up blockers.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:12 PM   #12
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The scheme looked just fine at the end of last year.

It's not scheme. It's not talent. It's that our players are soft and unconditioned and poorly coached and coordinated.

If you added a disciplinary coach and moved Romeo back to a coordinator role, I can bet you this defense would be much, much better.
The end of last year Crennel was utilizing a more agrressive scheme than he is now.

They were attacking the QB and penetrating at the line rather than reacting and letting plays develop.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:12 PM   #13
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The thing is that this is not his old scheme and that's the problem. It's a new scheme. The main problem is the way he using Berry. He's trying to make him into a linebacker or something and the guy is in the box most of the day. He used to play in coverage and rapidly come in to stop the run. He's hardly ever in coverage now.

Also, in the past he ran a 3-3-5 nickel package. We lined up in the nickel 50% of the time last season. You could even argue it was our base defense. Now, he keeps running this stupid package with 2 down linemen on 3rd downs. We hav gotten beat for TDs in this formation a ton this year. Almost all of the TDs we gave up came when we were running this formation. Surely Romeo can scrap this formation.

Last week Ryan picked us apart through the air when we ran it. This week Chan ran a couple of HB delays or draws and we got gashed because we only had two horses up front.

Hopefully Romeo will scrap it quick. It's killing us. We need to just run the nickel in those situations.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:12 PM   #15
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I love the 3-4. Just don't like playing Dime the whole ****ing game.

It's stupid.
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