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Old 09-15-2012, 06:46 PM  
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This time Japan gets it!!! What the GOP never will.

Japanese government announced a dramatic change to its energy policy on Friday, promising to end nuclear power in the country by the 2030s. The move was in response to last year's forced evacuation of 160,000 people after the Fukushima nuclear power complex came close to meltdown. Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda noted that a large majority of Japanese citizens support the elimination of nuclear power from their country. The new proposal calls for investing $500 billion dollars in renewable energy sources, like solar and wind power, over the next 20 years.

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President Obama is the transformational leader America needs. Now that Germany and Japan have formally decided to exit the nuclear power industry it is America's turn to follow their lead. Nuclear power is too expensive, too dangerous and alternatives offer the greater economic opportunity. America's best days are in front of us and the sooner we end republican obstruction the better. We are rapidly coming to the end of the visionless thinking that brought the nation to its knees.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:47 PM   #2
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:48 PM   #3
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President Obama is the transformational leader America needs. Now that Germany and Japan have formally decided to exit the nuclear power industry it is America's turn to follow their lead.

yes absolutely, the sine qua non of a transformational leader is someone who follows the lead of others.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:56 PM   #4
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So after they spend $500 billion to discover wind and solar are not viable solutions will they go back to nuclear?

Sounds like a good waste of money.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:59 PM   #5
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:01 PM   #6
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:20 PM   #7
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:14 PM   #8
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So after they spend $500 billion to discover wind and solar are not viable solutions will they go back to nuclear?

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Well, perhaps not. This is an amazing study indicating that wind alone can provide power to the entire east coast. This is going to happen in one form or another.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...ite&ocid=msnhp
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:30 PM   #9
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:32 PM   #10
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Well, perhaps not. This is an amazing study indicating that wind alone can provide power to the entire east coast. This is going to happen in one form or another.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...ite&ocid=msnhp
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:35 PM   #11
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The only way to fight the market value of energy is for governments to enact laws to make it artificially more expensive, so the expensive alternative energies become comparable in cost.

If there was a real market for alternative energies you wouldn't need government subsidies to attract capital to them. Where capital IS making investments in these areas it is happening with the knowledge that it is decades away. Eventually, wind, sun, and tidal energy will become marketable, but not until they are cost-effective alternatives to coal and oil/etc.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:30 PM   #12
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So does lightrise support a federally owned utility company or do you just support gov't subsidized alternate energy?
if the latter does that mean that solindra just didn't get enough money?
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:33 PM   #13
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Also hydro-electric is a great source of renewable energy (my whole city runs off it) however I do believe the libs stop it anywhere it's tried in the lower 48.
I believe their opposition is it will hurt the environment(fish,etc)
Oh, the irony.
It'd be funny if it wasn't so ****ing retarded.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:38 PM   #14
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Also hydro-electric is a great source of renewable energy (my whole city runs off it) however I do believe the libs stop it anywhere it's tried in the lower 48.
I believe their opposition is it will hurt the environment(fish,etc)
Oh, the irony.
It'd be funny if it wasn't so ****ing retarded.
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Actually, the big knock on hydro is the limited resources. You have to find, or make, a concentrated reservoir for Potential Energy, then harness. The natural ones [ie, waterfalls] are isolated instances of natural beauty. The created ones not only harm fish but obliterate liveable environs [Deliverance]. Heck, even Taum Sauk has its controversy and it's just a giant battery.

The general ENGINEERING, not political or theoretical, consensus is that hydro is largely tapped in the US, with some fiddling to be done off shore [tidal] and with sidestream generators.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:29 PM   #15
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The only way to fight the market value of energy is for governments to enact laws to make it artificially more expensive, so the expensive alternative energies become comparable in cost.

If there was a real market for alternative energies you wouldn't need government subsidies to attract capital to them. Where capital IS making investments in these areas it is happening with the knowledge that it is decades away. Eventually, wind, sun, and tidal energy will become marketable, but not until they are cost-effective alternatives to coal and oil/etc.
I am far from an expert on the subject but I understand we are only harnessing a small fraction of the suns capabilities through our current solar technology.
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