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Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM  
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Romney: 47% of Americans are victims

I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.

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A hidden camera video of Mitt Romney at a fundraiser shows him talking disparagingly of people who will vote for President Obama.

Said Romney: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax."

He adds: "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:56 PM   #241
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Majority of conservatives beleive that.
Romney's not running to be President of the Conservatives of the United States of America.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:58 PM   #242
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Romney's not running to be President of the Conservatives of the United States of America.
Like that jackass in office now is really trying to united America.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:00 PM   #243
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Like that jackass in office now is really trying to united America.
To be completely honest, I don't think people would care if he tried. The country is so divided now and it's unfortunate for all of us.

I thought that the 2004 election was the most divided I'd ever seen the country but in 2012, it's far worse. There seems to be little common ground between people on the left and people on the right.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:02 PM   #244
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You don't need to love Obama in order to not like Romney.
I hear ya, however Obama has been a complete disaster on every front, continues to be a menace, and will only make things exponentially worse if re-elected. He has to go. Period. He never should have been put in this position in the first place. It was obvious he was an incompetent fraud.

I could pick a name out of a phone book at random and I would vote for that person before I voted for Obama.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:05 PM   #245
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Like that jackass in office now is really trying to united America.
He's appointed Republicans, his signature law was a Republican idea, his stimulus act looks like what Romney would have recommended, he's deported more illegal immigrants, he's killed more terrorists, and he hasn't prosecuted anybody from the Bush administration or CIA.

It's a center-left Presidency, if not outright centrist. If conservatives decide to take their ball and go home, as the GOP has, there's literally nothing he can do.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:06 PM   #246
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Romney's not running to be President of the Conservatives of the United States of America.
Might as well your idol obama is running his hardest to be President of the liberals of the United States of America.

You liberals are all the same, go wash the sand out of your vaginas and wake the **** up. Socialism does not work. Quit taking the free ride on the backs of hard workers. Start thinking with your brain instead of your bleeding heart. In "real" life there are winners and losers, the "fantasy" world you all dream about is un-sustainable and retarded.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:07 PM   #247
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I hear ya, however Obama has been a complete disaster on every front, continues to be a menace, and will only make things exponentially worse if re-elected. He has to go. Period. He never should have been put in this position in the first place. It was obvious he was an incompetent fraud.

I could pick a name out of a phone book at random and I would vote for that person before I voted for Obama.
I have a question for you and I'm being completely sincere: Why would I, as a voter, select Romney? President Bush started two unfunded wars, the stock markets crashed, the economy was bleeding jobs when he left office and quite honestly, I'm far better off today than I was when he left office (although to be completely honest, I'm quite a bit behind 2006).

What assurances do I have that Romney won't invade Iran and drive our debt even higher? What assurances do I have that he won't continue to pander (for lack of a better word) to corporations and the wealthy?

I already strongly disagree with Romney/Ryan's Social Policy (although fortunately, they're not as far right as some in the party), so I can't vote for them strictly on social issues.

Please explain to me, if you can, why I should vote for Romney/Ryan strictly on fiscal issues. And no cheating: The answer can't be "Because they're better than Obama!".

Thanks in advance. Sincerely.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:08 PM   #248
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It's a center-left Presidency, if not outright centrist. If conservatives decide to take their ball and go home, as the GOP has, there's literally nothing he can do.
No he is not. A center left presidency would be Bill Clinton. Obama is not even close to being a Bill Clinton.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:09 PM   #249
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No he is not. A center left presidency would be Bill Clinton. Obama is not even close to being a Bill Clinton.
He's appointed Republicans, his signature law was a Republican idea, his stimulus act looks like what Romney would have recommended, he's deported more illegal immigrants, he's killed more terrorists, and he hasn't prosecuted anybody from the Bush administration or CIA.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:09 PM   #250
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he's deported more illegal immigrants,
That'd be real funny if I didn't think you actually believe it.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:10 PM   #251
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Actually, Socialism and aspects of it work quite well. Have you ever looked at the value of the GBP versus the U.S. dollar?

Furthermore, there is no more socialism today than there was in the US before Obama was elected. Every president, outside of the two Bush's, have wanted socialized medicine/national healthcare since medical insurance came into existence in the United States back in the 1940's.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:10 PM   #252
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That'd be real funny if I didn't think you actually believe it.
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Can you prove otherwise? If so, please do.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:12 PM   #253
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No he is not. A center left presidency would be Bill Clinton. Obama is not even close to being a Bill Clinton.
I actually think that Obama is to the right of Clinton.

I guess perception is everything.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:14 PM   #254
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I actually think that Obama is to the right of Clinton.

I guess perception is everything.
His suggested tax code is to the right of Clinton.

His healthcare reform is to the right of Clinton.

His overseas militarism is to the right of Clinton.

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