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Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM  
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Romney: 47% of Americans are victims

I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.

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A hidden camera video of Mitt Romney at a fundraiser shows him talking disparagingly of people who will vote for President Obama.

Said Romney: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax."

He adds: "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:43 PM   #541
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It took a half a day for those Obama quotes to hit the echo chamber. The right-wing false equivalence machine is losing their edge.
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:48 PM   #542
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Cool. I'll have to research because that particular quote, IMO, wasn't damning at all. It was about the Civil Rights movement, the SCOTUS and the Constitution.
Lamenting the fact that the Warren court, as progressive as it was, didn't decide to completely transform the constitution from a document that limits government into a document that requires the government to transfer wealth doesn't bother you? If anything, that's worse than being in favor of legislative redistribution through the tax code or through welfare programs/corporate subsidies, IMO.
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:49 PM   #543
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We have been over this already the people he was talking about vote Republican just as much or more than Democrat. He shat on his own supporters
Yall are seriously retarded. Results will win this election and Obama hasn't done shit. If this was Obama's first election then this would actually matter, but who gives a shit when we've seen the shitstorm with this fool at the helm of our country. Especially with foreign policy. WTF have we heard from this joker in light of other ME countries threatening our embassies? Americans might as well not fly across the pond because Joker Obama won't do shit to protect them or make sure they aren't being targeted.
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:52 PM   #544
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:54 PM   #545
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Thanks.

I really don't have a problem with that statement "I actually believe in some level of redistribution so that everybody's got a shot".

Poverty in this country is a huge issue. Some say it's an epidemic. I'm not really sure how you tackle it without some government intervention.

Let's just say that I'm glad I never went into politics.
Obviously, the tax system as it is creates "redistribution of wealth," but government - no matter how well intentioned - is a terrible alternative to the capitalist system in terms of granting "shots."
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:58 PM   #546
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Lamenting the fact that the Warren court, as progressive as it was, didn't decide to completely transform the constitution from a document that limits government into a document that requires the government to transfer wealth doesn't bother you? If anything, that's worse than being in favor of legislative redistribution through the tax code or through welfare programs/corporate subsidies, IMO.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:01 PM   #547
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Obviously, the tax system as it is creates "redistribution of wealth," but government - no matter how well intentioned - is a terrible alternative to the capitalist system in terms of granting "shots."
That's what I (possibly, mistakenly) assumed he was referring.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:06 PM   #548
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Too obscure for me. If it made more sense than your usual , could you translate for me?
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:06 PM   #549
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Some of you people are ****ing ridiculous. There is NOTHING in his remarks that he hasn't pretty much said already. This is all about it being a "hidden" video and the false idea that this is some super secret info that has leaked.

What a ****ing joke our media has become.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:10 PM   #550
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Some of you people are ****ing ridiculous. There is NOTHING in his remarks that he hasn't pretty much said already. This is all about it being a "hidden" video and the false idea that this is some super secret info that has leaked.

What a ****ing joke our media has become.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:13 PM   #551
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It took a half a day for those Obama quotes to hit the echo chamber. The right-wing false equivalence machine is losing their edge.
You're really funny.

Now go spend your food stamps...
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:13 PM   #552
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Yall are seriously retarded. Results will win this election and Obama hasn't done shit. If this was Obama's first election then this would actually matter, but who gives a shit when we've seen the shitstorm with this fool at the helm of our country. Especially with foreign policy. WTF have we heard from this joker in light of other ME countries threatening our embassies? Americans might as well not fly across the pond because Joker Obama won't do shit to protect them or make sure they aren't being targeted.
I don't think Obama believes this. He thinks talking to People magazine and David Letterman wins elections.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:15 PM   #553
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That's what I (possibly, mistakenly) assumed he was referring.
Sure.

I'm glad I met you -- I can't imagine the arguments we'd be having if we hadn't shared lunch...
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Some of you people are ****ing ridiculous. There is NOTHING in his remarks that he hasn't pretty much said already. This is all about it being a "hidden" video and the false idea that this is some super secret info that has leaked.

What a ****ing joke our media has become.
As I have already posted, he said nothing that was out of line. This is nothing more than the Ministry of Truth creating news~
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:18 PM   #555
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This is nothing more than the Ministry of Truth creating news~
Do you mean the DOJ? Have they called MediaMatters and given them today's talking points yet? Media collusion with this administration has gotten to the point of lunacy. Anyone who doesn't have a problem with it is either a fool or a bastard.
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