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Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM  
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Romney: 47% of Americans are victims

I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.

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A hidden camera video of Mitt Romney at a fundraiser shows him talking disparagingly of people who will vote for President Obama.

Said Romney: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax."

He adds: "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:20 AM   #631
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Romney said. "I think people would like to be paying taxes." Well he chose to reveal this on Fox News today. LOL So for all you republicans mesmerized by the Grover Norquist blackmail pledge...READ HIS LIPS...
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Wait a second here. That is an outright fraud to suggest this. There is nothing misleading about that at all. It is clear to me that you do not intend anything other than to suppress opinion that is contrary to your own. Not only did I provide an exact quote, but I told you where the statement was made from. This is not a news site here. It is entirely of opinion. This is a pathetic email.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:22 AM   #632
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Wait a second here. That is an outright fraud to suggest this. There is nothing misleading about that at all. It is clear to me that you do not intend anything other than to suppress opinion that is contrary to your own. Not only did I provide an exact quote, but I told you where the statement was made from. This is not a news site here. It is entirely of opinion. This is a pathetic email.
Wrong thread. Reported.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:23 AM   #633
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I can't believe there are so many siding with Romney on this. You've got to be pretty hard core neo con to not see this as a bad thing. It's possible the stay a rep and not agree everything Romney says and does. Many reasonable pundits seem capable of supporting Ronmney and correctly pointing out when he's done something stupid. This was stupid.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:27 AM   #634
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Are you saying my Mom wants the govt to take care of her worthless ass for being on SS and Medicare?
Yes it seems he is. It is frightening that a segment of our population thinks like that.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:30 AM   #635
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This will end up benefitting Romney because he's going to be asked about it several times over the next few days and that will give him the chance to say exactly what he was talking about in those off-the-cuff remarks. People will find it incredibly reasonable. It will make those who are hyperventilating over this and declaring his candidacy dead look ridiculous.

Wow.

errr...more like he's screwed himself very badly. He needs to be focusing on the economy and Obama's failures, real and/or perceived, not desperately explaining what he meant in a speech given back in May.

Romney's campaign has been something of a mess to be honest. It's too bad. I think he'd probably make a very good President. Unlike most here, I dont' dislike either, much less both, candidates. Romney keeps barfing on his own shoes however.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:43 AM   #636
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Wow.

errr...more like he's screwed himself very badly. He needs to be focusing on the economy and Obama's failures, real and/or perceived, not desperately explaining what he meant in a speech given back in May.

Romney's campaign has been something of a mess to be honest. It's too bad. I think he'd probably make a very good President. Unlike most here, I dont' dislike either, much less both, candidates. Romney keeps barfing on his own shoes however.
This thing was so overblown by the media it's ridiculous.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:45 AM   #637
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This thing was so overblown by the media it's ridiculous.
People won't like it when they find out someone is trying to manipulate them.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:49 AM   #638
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Yes it seems he is. It is frightening that a segment of our population thinks like that.
It's a stereotype plaguing Republican politics. The Dems are feasting on it because guys like Pat, LocoChief and Mitt Romney do nothing but fuel the fire.

"If you don't vote Romney then you're a lazy slacker looking for a government handout".

It's a very narrow minded, un reasonable way of looking at things and the dems are having a field day exposing it. It's getting to the point where all the Dems have to do is keep their mouths shut and walk away with another win.

It's unfortunate because i don't believe that true Republican politics is suppose to look, sound, and feel the way that it does right now.

It's in a bad place, and it needs to return to its roots.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:55 AM   #639
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He doesn't have to unless he's trying to earn the too-literal moron vote.
What percentage was he trying to say believe they are victims?
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:55 AM   #640
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This thing was so overblown by the media it's ridiculous.
When a Candidate says something stupid, it gets overblown. Doesn't matter if it's Obama or Romney.

Don't want it overblown? Don't say something stupid.

I think it's pretty simple, right?
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:01 AM   #641
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he shouldnt of said that. He's screwin himself here
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:02 AM   #642
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Harry Reid read my post

"For all we know, Mitt Romney could be one of those who paid no federal income tax."

-- Sen. Harry Reid, in a speech on the Senate floor today.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:03 AM   #643
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It's a stereotype plaguing Republican politics. The Dems are feasting on it because guys like Pat, LocoChief and Mitt Romney do nothing but fuel the fire.

"If you don't vote Romney then you're a lazy slacker looking for a government handout".

It's a very narrow minded, un reasonable way of looking at things and the dems are having a field day exposing it. It's getting to the point where all the Dems have to do is keep their mouths shut and walk away with another win.

It's unfortunate because i don't believe that true Republican politics is suppose to look, sound, and feel the way that it does right now.

It's in a bad place, and it needs to return to its roots.
I get it. It's no fun hearing the hard truths of grown up talk. Much more enjoyable to be rocked to sleep with the sound of democrat fairy tales in your ears.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:04 AM   #644
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Regardless of what it does to his campaign, I don't have a problem with what he said. Truth hurts.
Yep. And the media is so overblowing it. He didn't say he didn't care about those people. He said he didn't care about their votes because he knows he will never get them.
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When a Candidate says something stupid, it gets overblown. Doesn't matter if it's Obama or Romney.

Don't want it overblown? Don't say something stupid.

I think it's pretty simple, right?
I generally agree, but--videotape of a candidate speaking to a small group of donors when he doesn't think the general public is going to hear what he says--that's kind of big. A great measure of someone is what they do when they think no one is looking. And the 47% thing was only part of it. Mitt said a lot of other stupid/crazy/offensive stuff in there.
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