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Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM  
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Romney: 47% of Americans are victims

I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.

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A hidden camera video of Mitt Romney at a fundraiser shows him talking disparagingly of people who will vote for President Obama.

Said Romney: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax."

He adds: "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:05 PM   #736
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He repeated a very common right-wing talking point. He repeated it perfectly (although most round up and just say "half" rather than 50%). He didn't speak poorly. He said exactly what he meant to say.
Okay, let's say you are correct and he was tailoring what he was saying to his audience. Do you think Obama has never done the same (or any other politician)?
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:07 PM   #737
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At this point, no. But it's headed there.

I just think the Republicans coulda done a better job of picking a candidate.

Whom? I have no idea. I don't follow politics closely enough to pretend to know.

But there certainly could've been someone better than this?
Of the group that ran, not really. Newt, Perry, Bachman, Santorum--A scumbag, a dummy, and a couple of nuts.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:11 PM   #738
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Okay, let's say you are correct and he was tailoring what he was saying to his audience. Do you think Obama has never done the same (or any other politician)?
Ah yes, the classic, "BUT MA', TIMMY PEED ON THE TOILET SEAT TOOOOO!" rebuttal.

Does it matter? A stupid comment is a stupid comment, no matter who says it. It doesn't detract from the statement Romney made.

Lets not pretend that the R's aren't quick to point out Obama's failings as well.

Not sure why you'd bring that up.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:13 PM   #739
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Okay, let's say you are correct and he was tailoring what he was saying to his audience. Do you think Obama has never done the same (or any other politician)?
Of course. Tailoring is fine. But it shouldn't be an embarassment should the tailored message go public. If you're not saying anything inflammatory or deceitful, it wouldn't be embarassing.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:19 PM   #740
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Ah yes, the classic, "BUT MA', TIMMY PEED ON THE TOILET SEAT TOOOOO!" rebuttal.

Does it matter? A stupid comment is a stupid comment, no matter who says it. It doesn't detract from the statement Romney made.

Lets not pretend that the R's aren't quick to point out Obama's failings as well.

Not sure why you'd bring that up.
You can define it however you wish. I'm just pointing out that politicians tailor their message based on the audience. And, Romney wasn't aware this was being recorded.

Remember Obama's "clinging to guns and religion" comment that was also recorded without his knowledge. Or his comment to Putin (much more disturbing than all of these).
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:20 PM   #741
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Of course. Tailoring is fine. But it shouldn't be an embarassment should the tailored message go public. If you're not saying anything inflammatory or deceitful, it wouldn't be embarassing.
See above. You were fine with the "clinging to gun and religion" comment?
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:21 PM   #742
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It seems reasonable to presume that Romney was referring to the 6.9% and incorrectly lumped in the other 40%, no?
Most folks, including many Republis, presume that Romney is incorrect in saying that 47% of Americans won't "take personal responsibility and care for their lives" by failing to pay income tax. People who feel they are "entitled to food."
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:23 PM   #743
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Most folks, including many Republis, presume that Romney is incorrect in saying that 47% of Americans won't "take personal responsibility and care for their lives" by failing to pay income tax. People who feel they are "entitled to food."
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:25 PM   #744
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Okay, let's say you are correct and he was tailoring what he was saying to his audience. Do you think Obama has never done the same (or any other politician)?
Oh he does tailor his message to his audience. The press just doesn't release it if it's going to hurt Obama:

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And, Romney wasn't aware this was being recorded.
Doesn't matter. He was speaking in public, he should just assume someone in that room is recording him. You're never just speaking to the room.
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See above. You were fine with the "clinging to gun and religion" comment?
Not sure what you mean "fine with." It was a dumb comment, but at least not some bogus talking point meant to be passed off as a fact.
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You can define it however you wish. I'm just pointing out that politicians tailor their message based on the audience. And, Romney wasn't aware this was being recorded.
That's not a point in his favor. Sure, he was telling inflammatory lies to his big donors--but it doesn't count because he didn't know anyone else was listening!
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I believe he's referring to payroll taxes (which we all pay) and those who also pay no income tax. I presume you and Romney both pay the latter.
It's hard to know what he's referring to because he's such a drooling Mongo.
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Okay, let's say you are correct and he was tailoring what he was saying to his audience. Do you think Obama has never done the same (or any other politician)?
I don't think Romney said anything offensive to his base, which, right or wrong, believes the same thing (whether they're part of the 47% or not).

But with said, his comments won't endear him to many people outside of that base.
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I don't think Romney said anything offensive to his base, which, right or wrong, believes the same thing (whether they're part of the 47% or not).

But with said, his comments won't endear him to many people outside of that base.
The only people that it matters regarding are the independents. I don't know how it will be received by them.
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