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Old 09-18-2012, 09:07 AM  
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Geno Smith fans roll call

NEW THREAD HEADER (11/17/12):

The list is gone. We will all be Geno Smith fans when he gets drafted by the Chiefs. For historical documentation's sake, I'll keep the list in a separate post on this thread: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=3314

WHY GENO SMITH?
If you're wondering if Geno Smith is right for you, check out this brilliant post by Saccopoo:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=5388

Next, we have a few GIFs you may be interested in from the Oklahoma game. Insane potential. These are the elite throws that very few QBs can make. What more can I say? Geno Smith can be a franchise QB in the NFL, and the Chiefs need to take a shot on him.

GIF #1:
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GIF #2:
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GIF #3 (My favorite):
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HOW DO WE GET HIM HERE?

Glad you asked. I posted this checklist earlier. It probably belongs in the thread header, and will be updated as the Chiefs close out their season and start a new chapter in their franchise story.

Preparing for Geno Smith's Arrival In KC Checklist

1. [X] Lose games and acquire the #1 overall pick
2. [X] Get Pioli and the Patriot Way cronies the **** out
3. [X] Hire new GM/coach

OPTIONAL (but highly recommended):
4. [ ] Re-sign/tag Bowe, who really wants to play in KC with Geno
5. [ ] Re-sign/tag Albert

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Old 01-10-2013, 09:12 PM   #9016
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I live to prove people wrong, so I saved your reaction to Aaron Murray. I'll follow up in a year or 2.
That wouldn't be proving him wrong. If Aaron Murray had come out now he wouldn't be in contention as the top QB. Which would most likely be why he was advised to return. Him improving his stock after another (needed) year in college doesn't change that.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:13 PM   #9017
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I fully encourage EVERYONE to read this report on Geno

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012/...ng-report.html

This scouting report hits it on the head.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:13 PM   #9018
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And this short passing stuff is a little out of proportion. The NFL passing game is consistently 31 plus yards down the field.

Yes, stretching the field is important, but the passing game is mostly 20 yards and in. The area where Geno has the most accuracy. So I don't really see that being a big deal.
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I fully encourage EVERYONE to read this report on Geno

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012/...ng-report.html

This scouting report hits it on the head.
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:15 PM   #9020
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Would love to hear your reaction to the Geno article and how he's not the master of passes within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage
Did you miss the point of the article? The point of the article is that his stats ARE NOT padded by short passes and long runs. He doesn't rely on any area of the field as a "crutch", he is as good as it gets at nearly every level and every area of the field...

His completion percentage over ten yards is likely comparable to any elite QB.
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If Joel does this again with Tyler Wilson he will find that Wilson throws more passes within 5 yards of the LOS than Geno. Shallow cross FTW.
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I fully encourage EVERYONE to read this report on Geno

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012/...ng-report.html

This scouting report hits it on the head.
Prospect: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
Height: 6’3″
Weight: 220
Grade: 7.7 (Grading Scale)



Scouting Report:

Athleticism:

+Excellent size and frame for an NFL quarterback – legit 6’3″.
+Has enough bulk to hold up to some hits at the next level.
+Added 15 pounds of muscle this off-season.
+Strong enough to shrug off would be tacklers.
+Decent speed, but certainly not a running quarterback.
+Balanced, stays under control on the move.
-Tentative to pull it down and run.

Arm Talent:
+Phenomenal touch down the field, very accurate on deep balls.
+Can drive the ball across the field without a dip – elite arm strength.
+Leads receivers well, allows for yardage after the catch.
+Quick, over the top release.
+Able to throw from multiple arm positions.
-Occasionally rockets a pass at close range through his receivers hands.
-Seemed to struggle throwing in the wind.

Pocket Presence:
+Doesn’t watch the rush, eyes stay downfield when adjusting in the pocket.
+Feet stay active in the pocket, but doesn’t waste movement.
+Stays in the pocket as long as possible, looks to pass first always.
+Has some elusiveness, doesn’t look to run but will take an easy first down when given.
+Able to climb the pocket and avoid edge rushers.
+Maintains proper depth in the pocket, doesn’t hang his OL out to dry.

Command of offense:
+Can make all the reads, high/low, left/right.
+Experienced with run/pass reads and route adjustments based on defense.
+Manipulates safeties with subtle fakes and eye discipline.
+Understands when to take chances and when to make the safe throw.
-Occasionally locks onto his first read when in a pressure situation.
-Doesn’t spend much time under center, mainly in pistol/shotgun.

Overview:
Geno Smith has been my number one quarterback prospect since the beginning of this season and despite a couple of rocky games against Texas Tech and Kansas State, he is still my guy at the end of the season.

Smith has the size, accuracy and arm strength that is requisite in the NFL, while his pocket presence and athleticism put him in position to be a franchise quarterback at the next level. Dynamic receivers Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey have certainly helped Smith develop, but he has also made them look good with his touch and accuracy.

He isn’t as NFL-ready as Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III were coming out last year, he certainly is a prospect that you can try and build a team around. He took criticism from 2011 (improve touch, play within the offense, add bulk, etc…) and has improved greatly in all areas.

If I’m picking first in the 2013 NFL Draft and need a quarterback – I run up to the podium and turn in the card with the name Geno Smith on it.

Scouting Notes

West Virginia vs Baylor
-Goes through two reads, hits his third option underneath.
-Looks very comfortable with trash at his feet – strong enough to shrug off some would be tacklers.
-Can tuck and run with the ball – has some elusiveness and speed but it is his last option.

Full scouting notes for Geno Smith vs Baylor.

West Virginia vs Texas
- Hangs in the pocket as long as possible, delivers 3rd down throw with man in his face
- Sells the draw and delivers a strike to Bailey for TD on 3 step slant
- Immediate front side pressure from Okafor, able to escape and pick up positive yards before being stopped short of 1st down marker
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Old 01-10-2013, 09:18 PM   #9023
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I fully encourage EVERYONE to read this report on Geno

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012/...ng-report.html

This scouting report hits it on the head.
My favorite part of this report. "If I’m picking first in the 2013 NFL Draft and need a quarterback – I run up to the podium and turn in the card with the name Geno Smith on it"
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if geno had choked in games the way murray did - throwing terrible ints, fumbling at the worst times - he would get murdered and wouldn't even be in discussion by chiefs fans....

there is a complete double standard in how they are evaluated

never mind that smith had literally the worst defense in college, while murray played with 3 first round picks (not even counting rambo)

it's a joke
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My favorite part of this report. "If I’m picking first in the 2013 NFL Draft and need a quarterback – I run up to the podium and turn in the card with the name Geno Smith on it"
Not here in KC. We beg for someone to take our pick, or hope to God we draft another LT!!
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My favorite part of this report. "If I’m picking first in the 2013 NFL Draft and need a quarterback – I run up to the podium and turn in the card with the name Geno Smith on it"
My favorite part was "+Understands when to take chances and when to make the safe throw."

Which would be why he completed such a high percentage of passes and threw 98 TDs against 21 INTS.

I don't think we've had a QB here since Trent Green who had a real grasp on that.
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if geno had choked in games the way murray did - throwing terrible ints, fumbling at the worst times - he would get murdered and wouldn't even be in discussion by chiefs fans....

there is a complete double standard in how they are evaluated

never mind that smith had literally the worst defense in college, while murray played with 3 first round picks (not even counting rambo)

it's a joke
Height aside, Murray translates well to the NFL. My problem with him as I've stated before is that he crumbles against good competition, and will destroy the weak defenses. Watch what he did against Tennessee this year. Threw 1 bad INT that wasn't entirely his fault, but other than that he tore them apart.

He needs 1 more year. Going back was a good decision.
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if geno had choked in games the way murray did - throwing terrible ints, fumbling at the worst times - he would get murdered and wouldn't even be in discussion by chiefs fans....

there is a complete double standard in how they are evaluated

never mind that smith had literally the worst defense in college, while murray played with 3 first round picks (not even counting rambo)

it's a joke
But he almost had a clutch game winning drive in the SEC championship game!!!!

...of course, Saban was calling prevent D the whole way like a ****ing idiot...
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Check out Geno's high school numbers. The guy has historically taken care of the ball VERY well. He does fumble at times, but as for interceptions, he takes care of the ball.
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But he almost had a clutch game winning drive in the SEC championship game!!!!

...of course, Saban was calling prevent D the whole way like a ****ing idiot...
...and he completely choked the clock away, blame the coaches all you want, any starting QB at a division 1 school should be able to handle that situation...
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