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Old 09-18-2012, 11:21 AM  
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National Tracking Polls: Romney +6 in Last Week

Strange. I thought all of these Romney gaffes had killed his campaign.

Rasmussen Last Week: Obama: 50, Romney: 46
Rasmussen This Week: Obama: 45, Romney: 47

Gallup Last Week: Obama: 50, Romney: 43
Gallup This Week: Obama: 47, Romney: 46

Given the huge pick-ups Romney makes when Likely Voter filters are applied, I'd say the Gallup and Rasmussen numbers are probably close to, if not exactly, the same.

Let's see if Obama gets another bounce from the 47% remark (doubt it, but we'll see) and how quickly that one fades...

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Old 09-24-2012, 11:01 PM   #166
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They are a majority of the electorate if you use their definitions and you are going by registered voters not likely voters.

I don't necessarily think the piece is accurate I just found it interesting. All this poll talk is really silly until after the first debate, in my opinion.
If it's silly, why actively participate?
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:05 PM   #167
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If it's silly, why actively participate?
If you'll notice, up til now I have not been participating, I just saw that article and thought it was funny after reading BRC's comments. I'll join in the conversation actively after the first debate, until then I feel that most of this is just pissing in the wind.
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:07 PM   #168
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****ing brutal.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/20...ate_polls.html

Colorado: Obama 51%, Romney 45% (Public Policy Polling)

Florida: Obama 50%, Romney 45% (American Research Group)

Iowa: Obama 51%, Romney 44% (American Research Group)

Michigan: Obama 54%, Romney 42% (Rasmussen)

North Carolina: Obama 49%, Romney 45% (Civitas)

Nevada: Obama 51%, Romney 44% (American Research Group)

Wisconsin: Obama 53%, Romney 41% (We Ask America)
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:39 AM   #169
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****ing brutal.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/20...ate_polls.html

Colorado: Obama 51%, Romney 45% (Public Policy Polling)

Florida: Obama 50%, Romney 45% (American Research Group)

Iowa: Obama 51%, Romney 44% (American Research Group)

Michigan: Obama 54%, Romney 42% (Rasmussen)

North Carolina: Obama 49%, Romney 45% (Civitas)

Nevada: Obama 51%, Romney 44% (American Research Group)

Wisconsin: Obama 53%, Romney 41% (We Ask America)
REPOST! (had to be done...)

I have a hard time believing that Florida, North Carolina and Iowa are going Obama, but at this point who the hell knows...

If I had to bet right now, I think it will all boil down to Ohio in the end, and that's going to be a tough one for Romney.
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:03 AM   #170
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REPOST! (had to be done...)

I have a hard time believing that Florida, North Carolina and Iowa are going Obama, but at this point who the hell knows...

If I had to bet right now, I think it will all boil down to Ohio in the end, and that's going to be a tough one for Romney.
Rep's ****ed up by choosing a guy even they don't like.

There is absolutely nothing about Romney I like. I'm a conservative.

I'll sit and wait during Obama's 2nd term and hope it beats some sense into people...
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:29 AM   #171
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I've seen State Senators give the money to other candidates in different districts. At the National level it probably goes to a Senate/Governor/Rep race in the future.

The MO Gubernatorial race ads attacking Nixon are very well done until the end IMO. It should have stopped short of attacking Obama, but those ads were probably paid for in a combination of funds from Romney and Spence.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:59 AM   #172
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Early voting has started in half the states...

Stateearly voting % 2004early voting % 2008
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CO47.979.3
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FL36.157.3
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IA30.831.6
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NV53.167.6
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NC30.873.9
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OH10.725.5
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:22 AM   #173
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I've seen State Senators give the money to other candidates in different districts. At the National level it probably goes to a Senate/Governor/Rep race in the future.

The MO Gubernatorial race ads attacking Nixon are very well done until the end IMO. It should have stopped short of attacking Obama, but those ads were probably paid for in a combination of funds from Romney and Spence.
That could be. It also could be that Obama is unpopular enough in Missouri that to tie Nixon to Obama is advantageous for Spence.
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:23 AM   #174
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Early voting has started in half the states...
Early voting is an abomination, but Romney has been investing heavily in it to try to counter Obama's likely effectiveness in this area.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:10 AM   #175
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Early voting is an abomination, but Romney has been investing heavily in it to try to counter Obama's likely effectiveness in this area.
Why is it an abomination?
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:23 AM   #176
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:43 AM   #177
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Why is it an abomination?
Because our elections should be about making a case to the people and then letting them decide. Early voting means that some people are voting before the arguments have all been made. For example, some people are voting right now before the first debate has even taken place. It's like letting a jury member cast it's vote whether or not to convict any time after closing arguments begin instead of making them wait until both sides have made their closing arguments.

Early voting favors the incumbent whose case is generally pretty well known and raises the hurdle for challengers who generally have more limited funds and opportunities to get their "new" case in front of the voters. Does the challenger blow his/her wad just before early voting starts or do they save it for the last few weeks before the majority of people will vote knowing that they will be at a big disadvantage with the early voters. This is an even bigger problem for down ticket races than it is for the POTUS race.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:46 AM   #178
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Because our elections should be about making a case to the people and then letting them decide. Early voting means that some people are voting before the arguments have all been made. For example, some people are voting right now before the first debate has even taken place. It's like letting a jury member cast it's vote whether or not to convict any time after closing arguments begin instead of making them wait until both sides have made their closing arguments.

Early voting favors the incumbent whose case is generally pretty well known and raises the hurdle for challengers who generally have more limited funds and opportunities to get their "new" case in front of the voters. Does the challenger blow his/her wad just before early voting starts or do they save it for the last few weeks before the majority of people will vote knowing that they will be at a big disadvantage with the early voters. This is an even bigger problem for down ticket races than it is for the POTUS race.
That's bullshit. Everyone here has known you were going to vote for at least the last 4 years and everyone here knows exactly where I'm going to vote. Why wait it out and risk the chance of turnout?
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That's bullshit. Everyone here has known you were going to vote for at least the last 4 years and everyone here knows exactly where I'm going to vote. Why wait it out and risk the chance of turnout?
Did you read my post? The places where early voting has the most nefarious impact are on the elections for offices other than POTUS where challengers are less well known and have poorer funding. It certainly has an impact at the POTUS level too, not on discerning people like me or sheep like you, but on the less committed people among us.
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Because our elections should be about making a case to the people and then letting them decide. Early voting means that some people are voting before the arguments have all been made. For example, some people are voting right now before the first debate has even taken place. It's like letting a jury member cast it's vote whether or not to convict any time after closing arguments begin instead of making them wait until both sides have made their closing arguments.

Early voting favors the incumbent whose case is generally pretty well known and raises the hurdle for challengers who generally have more limited funds and opportunities to get their "new" case in front of the voters. Does the challenger blow his/her wad just before early voting starts or do they save it for the last few weeks before the majority of people will vote knowing that they will be at a big disadvantage with the early voters. This is an even bigger problem for down ticket races than it is for the POTUS race.
Ok. Fair enough and you make a good argument against it. Are you in favor though of early voting via absentee ballot?
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