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Old 09-18-2012, 09:02 PM  
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:14 PM   #1246
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I personally feel like he is a much better prospect skill/stats-wise than Palmer/Leinart/Sanchez/Cassell.

If USC would have won a national championship I think he would have been a lock for the #1.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:15 PM   #1247
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I personally feel like he is a much better prospect skill/stats-wise than Palmer/Leinart/Sanchez/Cassell.

If USC would have won a national championship I think he would have been a lock for the #1.
Leinart and Cassel for sure.


Sanchez had alot going for him as did Palmer. I'm just not sure physically he woudl be able to be better and I think his physical stuff is overblown.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:30 PM   #1248
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Of course Barkley isn't "medically cleared" to throw at combine. I wouldn't want to throw side by side vs. all the stronger arms either...


Any truth in this?
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:39 PM   #1249
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Of course Barkley isn't "medically cleared" to throw at combine. I wouldn't want to throw side by side vs. all the stronger arms either...


Any truth in this?
Why would there be? This is the 21st century. You don't need them in the same building together to compare their arms...

Why does this forum love to quote that horrible draft monster twitter. It's just another amateur guy in his basement website.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:39 PM   #1250
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Of course Barkley isn't "medically cleared" to throw at combine. I wouldn't want to throw side by side vs. all the stronger arms either...


Any truth in this?
Not really. Its not a rocket for an arm but he isn't Pennington or Matt Cassel either. Average Nfl arm.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:41 PM   #1251
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Why would there be? This is the 21st century. You don't need them in the same building together to compare their arms...

Why does this forum love to quote that horrible draft monster twitter. It's just another amateur guy in his basement website.
Having them throwing side by side isn't the best way to compare arms?
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:42 PM   #1252
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:43 PM   #1253
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Having them throwing side by side isn't the best way to compare arms?
When one of the guys has a legit shoulder injury? Absolutely not.

I expect you to believe everything the Zobel kid says now if you are going to believe...Draft...Monster.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:43 PM   #1254
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:43 PM   #1255
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Having them throwing side by side isn't the best way to compare arms?
I think that what he's saying is that if Barkley's arm was so weak that he was hesitant to be directly compared to the other prospects, scouts and GMs would already know it.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:44 PM   #1256
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When one of the guys has a legit shoulder injury? Absolutely not.

I expect you to believe everything the Zobel kid says now if you are going to believe...Draft...Monster.
Then it has to do with his injury, not his weak arm. Which obviously, is understandable.


However, if you question whether he is really that injured or not, it makes for a question.

I don't think that, but I'm sure some do.


But you are obviously biased, because you are a big Barkley fan.
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When one of the guys has a legit shoulder injury?
Or that.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:46 PM   #1258
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I think that what he's saying is that if Barkley's arm was so weak that he was hesitant to be directly compared to the other prospects, scouts and GMs would already know it.
You would think so.

Maybe because of the injury his arm strength is REALLY off, like Peyton Manning, so he's trying to use the extra time to build back strength?
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Then it has to do with his injury, not his weak arm. Which obviously, is understandable.


However, if you question whether he is really that injured or not, it makes for a question.

I don't think that, but I'm sure some do.


But you are obviously biased, because you are a big Barkley fan.

I have had a similar injury playing baseball. Hence my comment about how you can occasionally get dead arm when throwing because of the nerves in your shoulder. And this can extend past the 4-12 weeks for the healing to finish.

And I am technically a far bigger Geno fan than a Barkley fan. I am just an even bigger fan of facts and logic.
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I have had a similar injury playing baseball. Hence my comment about how you can occasionally get dead arm when throwing because of the nerves in your shoulder. And this can extend past the 4-12 weeks for the healing to finish.

And I am technically a far bigger Geno fan than a Barkley fan. I am just an even bigger fan of facts and logic.
If he's having nerve problems in the arm, thats an even bigger problem than a separated shoulder.
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