Chiefs Man I sure wish we had Russell Wilson - Page 19

lcarus · 09-24-2012, 08:03 PM

Yeah hindsight is 20/20 and admittedly I didn't know much about Wilson at draft time, but then again I'm not paid to scout and draft players for a team that desperately needs a QB. Oh well I guess at least we got Donald Stephenson from OU.........yay.....

the Talking Can · 12-06-2012, 07:09 AM

we've covered this before...there were like 3 people who wanted Ryan...brock and mecca were two of them...

he got shit on the same way every QB does...no one is good enough for our precious Chiefs fans

htismaqe · 12-06-2012, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

we've covered this before...there were like 3 people who wanted Ryan...brock and mecca were two of them...

he got shit on the same way every QB does...no one is good enough for our precious Chiefs fans

I was down on Ryan and I'm not a "don't draft a QB" guy at all.

I didn't like Ryan and so far, I've been pretty much dead-on about the guy. To this point, he's been a top-tier game manager. He needs to demonstrate, especially in the playoffs, that he DESERVES to be called "elite".

htismaqe · 12-06-2012, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Matt Ryan threw 19 freaking picks his senior season.

Exactly.

People are totally taking NFL performances and applying them to prospect status AFTER THE FACT.

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 12-06-2012, 07:20 AM

I was talking shit on the 08 QB class last night.

Did anyone know who Joe Flacco was entering his Sr. season?

Anyone?

I bet there's a thread on here where people suddenly learn about Joe Flacco and are less than impressed.

Geno destroys Joe Flacco as an NFL prospect.

the Talking Can · 12-06-2012, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I was down on Ryan and I'm not a "don't draft a QB" guy at all.

I didn't like Ryan and so far, I've been pretty much dead-on about the guy. To this point, he's been a top-tier game manager. He needs to demonstrate, especially in the playoffs, that he DESERVES to be called "elite".

he was absolutely worth being drafted and has turned their franchise around....

maybe he comes through eventually, maybe not...but you draft him and give it your best shot

people lose their minds talking about QBs

KILLER_CLOWN · 12-06-2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I was talking shit on the 08 QB class last night.

Did anyone know who Joe Flacco was entering his Sr. season?

Anyone?

I bet there's a thread on here where people suddenly learn about Joe Flacco and are less than impressed.

Geno destroys Joe Flacco as an NFL prospect.

That's easy to see, never been a fan of Flacco. Still not convinced ANY changes will be made in the offseason, I do however want to believe.

htismaqe · 12-06-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

he was absolutely worth being drafted and has turned their franchise around....

maybe he comes through eventually, maybe not...but you draft him and give it your best shot

people lose their minds talking about QBs

I agree on all points. Absolutely.

Deberg_1990 · 12-06-2012, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I was down on Ryan and I'm not a "don't draft a QB" guy at all.

I didn't like Ryan and so far, I've been pretty much dead-on about the guy. To this point, he's been a top-tier game manager. He needs to demonstrate, especially in the playoffs, that he DESERVES to be called "elite".

YOur absolutely right, but he was the right guy to draft for the Falcons and would have been for the Chiefs as well.

I think we have discussed this before, but he stabilized the franchise, and he keeps them in playoff contention nearly every year. Just because it isnt a Manning, Elway or Luck coming out in a particluar year does not mean "dont draft this guy". You have to play the cards you have been dealt....so to speak. Alot of fans have a hard time understanding this.

the Talking Can · 12-06-2012, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I agree on all points. Absolutely.

and not to hijack...but it will be very interesting to see what happens with him if they flame out again...he's got the most pressure of anyone in the league, imo

the Talking Can · 12-06-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

YOur absolutely right, but he was the right guy to draft for the Falcons and would have been for the Chiefs as well.

I think we have discussed this before, but he stabilized the franchise, and he keeps them in playoff contention nearly every year. Just because it isnt a Manning, Elway or Luck coming out in a particluar year does not mean "dont draft this guy". You have to play the cards you have been dealt....so to speak. Alot of fans have a hard time understanding this.

yup...i think people get confused that 'franchise QB' means 'surefire super bowl winner'

for some QBs, you're going to have to build a better team around them then others (see Ryan, Matt)...

htismaqe · 12-06-2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

YOur absolutely right, but he was the right guy to draft for the Falcons and would have been for the Chiefs as well.

I think we have discussed this before, but he stabilized the franchise, and he keeps them in playoff contention nearly every year. Just because it isnt a Manning, Elway or Luck coming out in a particluar year does not mean "dont draft this guy". You have to play the cards you have been dealt....so to speak. Alot of fans have a hard time understanding this.

Absolutely agree.

Deberg_1990 · 12-06-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

and not to hijack...but it will be very interesting to see what happens with him if they flame out again...he's got the most pressure of anyone in the league, imo

heh, hes sort of a victim of high expectations, which are created by him being good of course.

P Manning didnt win a championship until his 8th season in and has still only won 1.

mcaj22 · 12-06-2012, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

yup...i think people get confused that 'franchise QB' means 'surefire super bowl winner'

for some QBs, you're going to have to build a better team around them then others (see Ryan, Matt)...

this is what many Chiefs fans will refuse to grasp

after going through 4 awful years that were suppose to be rebuilding, we are essentially drafting a QB like Matt Ryan and it will take another 4 years for whatever QB we draft to show talent like Matt Ryan

Chiefs fans just have a hard time knowing they have to wait another 4 years to see some ****ing talent on this team

The Falcons and Matt Ryan didnt get good overnight and neither will the Chiefs and whatever QB they draft.

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 12-06-2012, 10:31 AM

Literally just had some idiot ask me if Cassel broke his throwing hand last year and if it could have possibly "destroyed his career."

Bowser · 12-06-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Literally just had some idiot ask me if Cassel broke his throwing hand last year and if it could have possibly "destroyed his career."

HE WAS A PRO BOWLER IN 2010 I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND

09-24-2012, 08:03 PM
lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $58125	Man I sure wish we had Russell Wilson Yeah hindsight is 20/20 and admittedly I didn't know much about Wilson at draft time, but then again I'm not paid to scout and draft players for a team that desperately needs a QB. Oh well I guess at least we got Donald Stephenson from OU.........yay.....
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the Talking Can MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $302142	we've covered this before...there were like 3 people who wanted Ryan...brock and mecca were two of them... he got shit on the same way every QB does...no one is good enough for our precious Chiefs fans __________________ Clark Hunt:a backup QB and an 8-8 record is worth 2 seconds"
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Branden Albert's Huge Balls ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the Soup Nazis Kitchen Casino cash: $160441	I was talking shit on the 08 QB class last night. Did anyone know who Joe Flacco was entering his Sr. season? Anyone? I bet there's a thread on here where people suddenly learn about Joe Flacco and are less than impressed. Geno destroys Joe Flacco as an NFL prospect. __________________ Alex Smith's career record when the opponent scores at least 24 points: 2-27-1
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