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Doing your Urkel impression again, Mr. President?

Just practicing some of my Romney zingers.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/29/us...agewanted=all&

Before Debate, Tough Crowds at the Practice
By PETER BAKER and ASHLEY PARKER
Published: September 28, 2012

WASHINGTON — In a conference room at the Democratic headquarters, President Obama has been preparing for the debate next week, but the reviews of his staff are already in. Too long, they tell him. Cut that answer. Give crisper explanations. No one wants a professor; they want a president.

Hundreds of miles away in New England, Mitt Romney’s team has been working to make sure he avoids coming off as a scold. His sparring partner, Senator Rob Portman of Ohio, channeling Mr. Obama, has gone after him repeatedly, to the point of being nasty. The goal is to get Mr. Romney agitated and then teach him how to keep his composure, look presidential.

With more than 50 million people watching and the presidency at stake, the candidates will meet for their first debate on Wednesday at the University of Denver, and both are cramming like college students before an exam. But it is not enough to pore through the voluminous briefing books. Victory may come down to a single exchange, or a single impression, an answer that comes off as too edgy or, conversely, as too long-winded.

Mr. Obama’s team records his practices to sharpen his responses so that they connect on a more visceral level with the television audience. One of Mr. Romney’s aides calculated his words-per-minute rate in the primary campaign debates to break him of the habit of feeling that he needs to rattle off the most statistics.

Mr. Romney’s team has concluded that debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers that he has memorized and has been practicing on aides since August. His strategy includes luring the president into appearing smug or evasive about his responsibility for the economy.

Mr. Obama is not particularly fluid in sound bites, so his team is aiming for a workmanlike performance like his speech at the Democratic convention. He is looking to show that Mr. Romney would drive the country in an extreme ideological direction at odds with the interests of the middle class.

For both men, it is a chance to reintroduce themselves to the largest audience in the campaign to date. “The debate at one level is almost a Zen moment — who is this person?” said Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker, who debated Mr. Romney during the Republican primary campaign. “What’s the larger story? What are we watching? What’s the drama we’re watching?”

As the candidates prepare, the first trick for Mr. Obama is finding time. His rehearsals have started late and ended early because of events like the tumult in the Middle East. He showed up at one practice just after speaking at a ceremony for the four Americans killed in Libya, and aides found that his mind was elsewhere.

“The ability to find solid blocks of time to do nothing but prepare for debate is almost impossible for a president,” said Dan Pfeiffer, the White House communications director. “The world doesn’t wait for debate prep.”

The president plans to decamp on Sunday to Nevada for a less distracting couple of days of practice.

During preparations, fewer than a dozen advisers are in the room. Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts plays Mr. Romney. Aides press Mr. Obama about unemployment, taxes and foreign policy, and try to be “as annoying as a White House correspondent,” as one put it. “You want to push the button and see how he will react,” the aide said.

Mr. Obama is a practiced debater after participating in more than 20 during the Democratic primary campaign in 2008, followed by three during the general election. But this will be his first as an incumbent, presenting new challenges.

David Plouffe, the president’s senior adviser, watched debates back to Gerald R. Ford’s against Jimmy Carter with the sound down to understand how a challenger’s stature increases by sharing a stage with the president. Other research found that incumbents unaccustomed to being challenged generally lost the first debate to challengers being taken more seriously by the public than ever before.

Obama advisers are acutely aware that Mr. Romney used debates to dispatch Republican rivals one by one during the primary campaign. When they watched Mr. Romney’s recent interview with “60 Minutes,” they noticed that his answers were succinct and well rehearsed, a sign of the hours he had invested.

The president’s advisers said they were less interested in one-liners and were focused instead on making Mr. Obama more accessible.

“He had a hard time getting every point across within the time limit,” Mr. Plouffe said of past debates. “You are trying to make a case to the people, so you have to make sure your answers connect with people.”

Those who have gone up against Mr. Obama said he rarely stumbled over facts but needed to show he understood that voters were hurting.

“Show them personally that you care about them. Empathize,” said former Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, who debated Mr. Obama in 2008. “Take a page from Clinton’s book and say, ‘I feel your pain,’ or something like that.”

While advisers said Mr. Obama would present Mr. Romney as a dangerous alternative, the president has an incentive to avoid risks, given his lead in battleground states. As important as scoring points will be avoiding mistakes.

“The sale has been made,” said Neera Tanden, who ran debate preparations for Hillary Rodham Clinton against Mr. Obama in 2008 and is now leads the Center for American Progress, a liberal research group. “He just needs to reaffirm it. He just needs to not get in the way.”

By contrast, Mr. Romney needs to change the dynamics of the race.

“The debates are very important,” said Kevin Madden, a senior adviser to Mr. Romney. “We see it as an important opportunity to persuade those voters who haven’t yet decided that Governor Romney would take the country in a better direction.”

Mr. Romney has focused on going after Mr. Obama without looking too aggressive. He participated in 23 debates during the nomination process, including a pair in Florida in which he effectively destroyed Mr. Gingrich’s threat. But general election debates tend to be more sober than the food-fight-type confrontations of a primary season.

“He came in very, very aggressive, very well prepared and ready to stick with his pitch no matter what,” Mr. Gingrich said. “That is a pretty good setup for Obama. The challenge he’s going to have is he’s essentially indicting Obama while standing next to him. He has to do it in a way that’s firm, respectful and pleasant.”

During rehearsals, Mr. Romney has tried lines of attack suggesting that Mr. Obama distorts the facts and sloughs off responsibility on others. Mr. Romney’s aides recall Mr. Obama’s tart “you’re likable enough” line to Mrs. Clinton in 2008 and hope to goad him into a similarly churlish moment. Mr. Romney will win, the advisers said, if he can force Mr. Obama to come across as condescending or smug.

To prepare Mr. Romney, Mr. Portman has played Mr. Obama combatively, attacking Mr. Romney as a rich man who does not care about average Americans. Evidently, he has gotten under the candidate’s skin. “We get the chance to debate one another, and after the hour and a half or so is over, I want to kick him out of the room,” Mr. Romney said recently.

True to reputation, Mr. Romney has practiced for months, starting in June in Utah, through three days this month in Vermont. Once, when a problem with a charter plane kept Mr. Romney out until after midnight, his adviser, Beth Myers, asked if he still wanted to practice the next day. “Painful,” he e-mailed, “but yes.”

All the practice in the world, though, may not matter if he cannot control the dialogue and keep Mr. Obama from throwing him off his plan.

“The governor’s done a great job of convincing people that the economy’s bad,” said Brett O’Donnell, a Republican debate coach who worked briefly for Mr. Romney. “He’s got to do a better job of making the case that President Obama’s directly responsible for that. That’s got to be his focus. If it becomes about anything else, then I think the governor’s at a disadvantage.”
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The President of Tomorrow, and the wreckage of today

One of the reasons why Barack Obama is regarded as the greatest orator of our age is that he's always banging on about some other age yet to come – e.g., the Future! A future of whose contours he is remarkably certain and boundlessly confident: The future will belong to nations that invest in education because the children are our future, but the future will not belong to nations that do not invest in green energy projects because solar-powered prompters are our future, and, most of all, the future will belong to people who look back at the Obama era and marvel that there was a courageous far-sighted man willing to take on the tough task of slowing the rise of the oceans because the future will belong to people on viable land masses. This futuristic shtick is a cheap'n'cheesy rhetorical device (I speak as the author of a book called "After America," whose title is less futuristic than you might think) but it seems to play well with the impressionable Obammysoxers of the press corps.

And so it was with President Obama's usual visionary, inspiring, historic, etc, address to the U.N. General Assembly the other day: "The future must not belong to those who bully women," he told the world, in a reference either to Egyptian clitoridectomists or the Republican Party, according to taste. "The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians," he added. You mean those Muslim guys? Whoa, don't jump to conclusions. "The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam," he declared, introducing to U.S. jurisprudence the novel concept of being able to slander a bloke who's been dead for getting on for a millennium-and-a-half now. If I understand correctly the cumulative vision of the speech, the future will belong to gay feminist ecumenical Muslims. You can take that to the bank. But make no mistake, as he would say, and in fact did: "We face a choice between the promise of the future or the prisons of the past, and we cannot afford to get it wrong." Because if we do, we could spend our future living in the prisons of the past, which we forgot to demolish in the present for breach of wheelchair-accessibility codes.

And the crowd went wild! Well, OK, they didn't. They're transnational bureaucrats on expense accounts, so they clapped politely, and then nipped out for a bathroom break before the president of Serbia. But, if I'd been one of the globetrotting bigwigs fortunate enough to get an invite – the Prime Minister of Azerbaijan, say, or the Deputy Tourism Minister of Equatorial Guinea – I would have responded: Well, maybe the future will belong to those who empower women and don't diss Mohammed. But maybe it'll belong to albino midgets who wear pink thongs. Who knows? Que sera sera, whatever will be will be, the future's not ours to see. But one thing we can say for certain is that the future will not belong to broke losers. You're the brokest guy in the room, you're the President of Brokistan. You've got to pay back 16 trillion dollars just to get back to having nothing, nada, zip. Who the hell are you to tell us who the future's going to belong to?

The excitable lads around the globe torching American embassies with impunity seem to have figured this out, even if the striped-pants crowd at Turtle Bay are too polite to mention it. Obama is not the President of the Future. He is President right now, and one occasionally wishes the great visionary would take his eye off the far distant horizon where educated women and fire-breathing Imams frolic and gambol side by side around their Chevy Volts, to focus on the humdrum present where the rest of us have the misfortune to live.

In the America over which Barack Obama has the tedious chore of actually presiding, second-quarter GDP growth was revised down from 1.7 percent to 1.3 percent – or, for in layman's terms, from "barely detectable" to "comatose." Orders of durable goods fell by 13.2 percent – or, as Obama would say, the future must not belong to people who own household appliances. Growth of capital stock (which basically measures investment in new equipment and software – or, as Obama would put it, investment in "the future") is at its lowest since records began. There are 261,000 fewer payroll jobs than when Obama took office – in a nation where (officially) 100,000 immigrants arrive every month. A few weeks ago, an analysis of government employment data by the nation's oldest outplacement firm, Challenger, Gray & Christmas, discovered that, of the 4,319,000 new American jobs created since January 2010, 2,998,000 – or about 70 percent – went to people aged 55 or older. This is a remarkable statistic, even in a land of 31-year-old schoolgirls like Sandra Fluke. You'd almost begin to get the vague, unsettling feeling that the future does not belong to Americans aged 54 and younger.

No doubt living in Obama's future will be peachy. But in the meantime we have to live in his present – the one he's nominally in charge of, the only one available. It is tempting to compare him to a great magician, artfully producing flags of many lands from his breast pocket while misdirecting the audience. In fact, Obama's misdirection isn't even that good: In essence, he's promising to perform spectacular tricks at some unspecified point in the future even as he stands on stage with an empty top hat, and the girl in spangled tights he sawed in half is bleeding all over the floor.

Two weeks ago in this space, I wrote that, in striking contrast to the official line, the Benghazi slaughter was not a spontaneous movie review that got a little out of hand but a catastrophic security breach and humiliating fiasco for the United States. Even more extraordinary, on Sept. 14, fewer than two dozen inbred, illiterate goatherds pulled off the biggest single destruction of U.S. airpower since the Tet Offensive in 1968, breaking into Camp Bastion (an unfortunate choice of name) in Afghanistan, killing Lieutenant-Colonel Christopher Raible, and blowing up a squadron's worth of Harriers. And, even though it was the third international humiliation for the United States in as many days, it didn't even make the papers. Because the court eunuchs at the media are too busy drooling over Obama's appearance as what he calls "eye candy" on the couch between Barbara and Whoopi.

Eye candy is in the eye of the beholder. And to the baying mob from Tunis to Jakarta those dead Americans and al-Qaida flags over U.S. embassies and an entire USMC air squadron reduced to charred ruins are a veritable Willie Wonka production line of eye candy. To the president, they're just "bumps in the road" to the sunlit uplands of "the future." Forward! Obama has lived on "the promise of the future" all his life – Most Promising Columbia Grad of 1983, Most Promising Community Organizer of 1988, Most Promising Fake Memoirist of 1995, Most Promising Presidential Candidate of 2008 ... The rest of us, alas, have to live in the present that he has made, which is noticeably short of promise. The Chinese Politburo get it, Czar Putin in the Kremlin gets it, and even the nutters doing the "Death to the Great Satan!" dance on the streets of Cairo and Lahore get it. On Nov. 6, we will find out whether the American people do.
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And so it was with President Obama's usual visionary, inspiring, historic, etc, address to the U.N. General Assembly the other day: "The future must not belong to those who bully women," he told the world, in a reference either to Egyptian clitoridectomists or the Republican Party, according to taste. "The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians," he added. You mean those Muslim guys? Whoa, don't jump to conclusions. "The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam," he declared, introducing to U.S. jurisprudence the novel concept of being able to slander a bloke who's been dead for getting on for a millennium-and-a-half now. If I understand correctly the cumulative vision of the speech, the future will belong to gay feminist ecumenical Muslims. You can take that to the bank. But make no mistake, as he would say, and in fact did: "We face a choice between the promise of the future or the prisons of the past, and we cannot afford to get it wrong." Because if we do, we could spend our future living in the prisons of the past, which we forgot to demolish in the present for breach of wheelchair-accessibility codes.

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In the America over which Barack Obama has the tedious chore of actually presiding, second-quarter GDP growth was revised down from 1.7 percent to 1.3 percent – or, for in layman's terms, from "barely detectable" to "comatose." Orders of durable goods fell by 13.2 percent – or, as Obama would say, the future must not belong to people who own household appliances. Growth of capital stock (which basically measures investment in new equipment and software – or, as Obama would put it, investment in "the future") is at its lowest since records began. There are 261,000 fewer payroll jobs than when Obama took office – in a nation where (officially) 100,000 immigrants arrive every month. A few weeks ago, an analysis of government employment data by the nation's oldest outplacement firm, Challenger, Gray & Christmas, discovered that, of the 4,319,000 new American jobs created since January 2010, 2,998,000 – or about 70 percent – went to people aged 55 or older. This is a remarkable statistic, even in a land of 31-year-old schoolgirls like Sandra Fluke. You'd almost begin to get the vague, unsettling feeling that the future does not belong to Americans aged 54 and younger.

No doubt living in Obama's future will be peachy. But in the meantime we have to live in his present – the one he's nominally in charge of, the only one available. It is tempting to compare him to a great magician, artfully producing flags of many lands from his breast pocket while misdirecting the audience. In fact, Obama's misdirection isn't even that good: In essence, he's promising to perform spectacular tricks at some unspecified point in the future even as he stands on stage with an empty top hat, and the girl in spangled tights he sawed in half is bleeding all over the floor.

Two weeks ago in this space, I wrote that, in striking contrast to the official line, the Benghazi slaughter was not a spontaneous movie review that got a little out of hand but a catastrophic security breach and humiliating fiasco for the United States. Even more extraordinary, on Sept. 14, fewer than two dozen inbred, illiterate goatherds pulled off the biggest single destruction of U.S. airpower since the Tet Offensive in 1968, breaking into Camp Bastion (an unfortunate choice of name) in Afghanistan, killing Lieutenant-Colonel Christopher Raible, and blowing up a squadron's worth of Harriers. And, even though it was the third international humiliation for the United States in as many days, it didn't even make the papers. Because the court eunuchs at the media are too busy drooling over Obama's appearance as what he calls "eye candy" on the couch between Barbara and Whoopi.

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Old 09-30-2012, 12:27 PM   #12
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we could use some awesome after seeing castle **** up yet again...
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Old 09-30-2012, 12:35 PM   #13
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