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Old 10-02-2012, 12:27 AM  
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Two Sponsors Pull Out From Debates Over Exclusion Of Gary Johnson

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Old 10-02-2012, 03:44 PM   #106
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It was during one of the debates. Paul was asked about some government regulation (such as the FAA) and he went on a Paul rant about privatizing the FAA.

Just general goofy Paul stuff.

Well there you have it. You conflate "privatizing the FAA" with "Pilots should do it themselves." You don't have any grasp of the ideas. You're merely mimicking a caricature of them.

Paul's position is fiscally and ideologically conservative. The position you are defending is both fiscally and ideologically leftist.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:46 PM   #107
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By the way - Canada has a privatized Aviation system. GOOFY!

Canada's ATC system has been fully commercialized.30 In 1996, Canada set up a private, nonprofit ATC corporation, Nav Canada, which is self-supporting from charges on aviation users. The Canadian system has been widely praised for its sound finances, solid management, and its investment in new technologies.31 The Canadian system is a very good reform model for the United States to consider.

Nav Canada's corporate board is composed largely of aviation stakeholders.32 It has 4 seats for the airlines, 3 for the government, 2 for employees, and 1 for the non-commercial aviation industry. Those 10 stakeholders select 4 directors from outside aviation, and then those 14 select the company president, who becomes the 15th board member. To further strengthen governance, neither elected officials nor anyone connected with suppliers to Nav Canada can serve on the board. Nav Canada also has a 20-member outside Advisory Committee.

A number of studies have found that ATC commercialization has generally resulted in improvements to service quality, better management, and reduced costs.33 At the same time, air safety has remained the same or improved in the countries that have pursued reforms to set up independent ANSP organizations.

http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/...n/airports-atc
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:47 PM   #108
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Well there you have it. You conflate "privatizing the FAA" with "Pilots should do it themselves." You don't have any grasp of the ideas. You're merely mimicking a caricature of them.

Paul's position is fiscally and ideologically conservative. The position you are defending is both fiscally and ideologically leftist.
Or, maybe I'm not:

WILLIAMS: Well, 30 seconds more for devil's advocate here, because would you then put it on the drug companies to say, "No, we're bringing this to market, trust us, it's a fantastic drug"? All the pilots in the sky, to add to their responsibilities, their own air traffic control, in an organic way?

PAUL: What I said is, theoretically, you could -- it could be privatized, but who ends up doing the regulations on the drugs?
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:51 PM   #109
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Theoretically, you could.


Well, stop the presses... You think you've made a point here?
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:52 PM   #110
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We already have a working model of privatizing the FAA. There is nothing groundbreaking about this idea. It's already being done with success.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:53 PM   #111
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So what's your thought on Citizens United?
You seemed to have a thought about it earlier.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:54 PM   #112
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You seemed to have a thought about it earlier.
I endorse the ACLU's position on it, much better expressed here:

http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/aclu...itizens-united

and here:

http://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech...k-constitution


I think it's better to allow too much speech than not enough.
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Theoretically, you could.


Well, stop the presses... You think you've made a point here?
Yes, that Paul is a fringe kook who thinks that having pilots do what the FAA does is a good idea. Or, he didn't listen or understand the question. It's just another example of his nuttiness.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:57 PM   #114
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I endorse the ACLU's position on it, much better expressed here:
http://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech...k-constitution


I think it's better to allow too much speech than not enough.
And your thoughts on where billionaires' donations come into play? It seemed you were concerned with that earlier.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:58 PM   #115
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Yes, that Paul is a fringe kook who thinks that having pilots do what the FAA does is a good idea. Or, he didn't listen or understand the question. It's just another example of his nuttiness.
Another example of you refusing to actually consider the point, and purposefully obfuscate it. But you wouldn't be Donger if you didn't do that. Everybody knows your style.

Apparently you don't understand the meaning of the word "theoretically."
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:58 PM   #116
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What's the point of voting when we get ballot access but don't get a voice in the national debate? What's the point of participating at all? Why not follow your lead and just give the nation over to the billionaires and put our heads down?
The ballot is the difference maker, not the debate. I can also say I've heard everything I need to know from him to decide he's not my guy.
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And your thoughts on where billionaires' donations come into play? It seemed you were concerned with that earlier.
Didn't I just make that clear? I'll repeat myself:
I think it's better to allow too much speech than not enough.
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The ballot is the difference maker, not the debate. I can also say I've heard everything I need to know from him to decide he's not my guy.
That's fair enough, but I'd bet a thousand dollars that in an open debate Gary Johnson would say something (or cause the other candidates to say something) that you would put you in agreement with him (on that issue) more than either Mitt or Obama. And for some people, that stuff would add up.
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Didn't I just make that clear? I'll repeat myself:
I think it's better to allow too much speech than not enough.
So what's the purpose of ranting about billionaires?
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Apparently you don't understand the meaning of the word "theoretically."
Sure I do. Theoretically, Ron Paul stood a chance to become POTUS.
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